Archaeological discoveries, breakthroughs and theories

Discussion in 'theory, philosophy & history' started by ringo, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    Loads of new sites being discovered or further revealed by the hot weather across Britain :cool:

    Hidden landscapes the heatwave is revealing

    As the summer sun continues to beat down on the British Isles, ghosts are appearing in the yellowing fields.

    Normally kept hidden by lush grasses and crops, old and prehistoric features are making themselves known through imprints on fields and lawns, some for the first time in known memory.

    It's hard to see these features from the ground - but with the rise of drones for aerial photography, they can be captured where they may have remained unidentified in previous heatwaves.

    The marks are revealed when grass or crops on top of wood or stone still in the ground flourish or deteriorate at different rates to surrounding material in the unusually hot weather.

    Ancient discovery
    In County Meath, Ireland, one aerial photographer made a discovery that turned out to be far more significant than he initially realised.

    Anthony Murphy, 44, captured pictures of a henge, using his drone in Newgrange. And when he noticed the "amazing detail", he "giggled with excitement, expecting someone to pinch and wake me up".

    The henge, in a field close to other late Neolithic monuments, is "entirely new" and includes "extraordinary and unexpected" features, according to Stephen Davis, assistant professor in archaeology at University College Dublin.
    Hidden landscapes the heatwave is revealing
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  2. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

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  3. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

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  4. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    Quite excited about all of those :cool:
  5. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    This week's cheese news.

    Traces found of 'world's oldest cheese'
    "Scientists have found traces of what they believe is the world's oldest cheese.

    It was made 7,000 years ago in what is now Croatia.

    An international team, including Heriot-Watt university researchers, say it led to the transformation of Europe.

    It is neither a sturdy cheddar nor a cheeky brie, rather some traces of fatty acids found on fragments of pottery from an archaeological site at Pokrovnik on the Dalmatian coast.

    But it is enough for the researchers from Heriot-Watt in Edinburgh and Pennsylvania State universities, Rochester Institute of Technology, and the Šibenik City Museum to conclude the sieve-like pottery objects were used for straining curds out of whey to make cheese.

    Traces of ancient milk fats have been found before but the new study has used carbon dating to produce a definitive chemical diagnosis that the Pokrovnik samples are from the cheese making process.

    The team says their discovery means humans were making cheese 2,000 years earlier than previously thought, pushing the date back from the Bronze Age to the Neolithic era.

    Cheese making was a breakthrough technology which transformed humanity."

    Traces found of 'world's oldest cheese'
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  6. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    Ancient Greek stove from the island of Delos, Greece

    Ancient Greek stove from the island of Delos Greece.jpg
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  7. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Definitely a "hold my beer" moment by whoever made that.

    That said, having attempted "complicated" cooking on an open fire, I can totally see the appeal.
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  8. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    thats actually really interesting - to consider something as prosaic as cheese as having a huge influence on human social development.
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  9. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    It is, and it ties in with similar things I've read regarding other cultures in the past. The ability to store food through the winter when resources might otherwise be too slim to survive or make a seasonal glut last longer seems to have been pivotal both to human success as a species and our ability to migrate to new areas.

    Making cheese, salting and drying meat and processing foods into oils, preserves and other products would have allowed people to follow the receding glaciers into previously uninhabitable regions, or pass through and live in inhospitable arid zones, in a way not previously possible.

    Growing populations require ever bigger land to live in, so this would have helped facilitate our gradual dominance of the planet as a species.

    There's a book in there, if it's not been written already.
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  10. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Don't forget about fermentation!
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  11. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    Yes definitely. Almost as important as cheese :D
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  12. trabuquera

    trabuquera Modesty Bag

  13. JuanTwoThree

    JuanTwoThree I care not for the wealth of Gyges

    It's stating the fairly obvious that a lot of Christmassy food represents this ability: stored apples, raisins, nuts sultanas, wine, glace fruits and so on. Some would have been used in their countries of origin for this purpose and then seen to be able to be transported (which is presumably why the French for some fresh fruit is English for the dried version: raisins and prunes).

    Brandy stops wine going off, beer is liquid bread that can be stored (lagered). Pickles, chutneys, jams, dried tomatoes, dried fungi, bottled fruit, fruit spirits.

    Access to calories (and having fun) in winter. Even fattening up animals on leftovers is much the same thing (geese etcetera).
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  14. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    Yep, storage and preserving is surely one of the most important factors in the success of humans as a species. It's history and use across different cultures would make a great TV series.

    It's a shame that since we all got fridges we no longer all do it as a matter of course. The irony being that we use a fridge to preserve food, but it's such a short term solution that we throw away and waste much of what we refrigerate. If preserved using traditional methods we would waste much less food, money and the resources required to produce it.

    I imagine at some point it will become much more important again as global warming, the destruction of the rain forests and increases in global population put even more of a squeeze on the world.
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  15. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank We kill the flame

    If you can produce long-lived, energy dense foods your warriors can travel further than the next tribe over who have to schlep more weight per useful calorie. This provides a competitive advantage. I read somewhere that the polynesian tribe which ended up dominating New Zealand, and lending their name to the people now called Maori, was not the fiercest or the meanest but the one with the most nutrient-dense variety of potato.
  16. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    The importance of preserving food and how it could help resolve food shortages now.

    "Lawrence Okettayot is on a road trip across Uganda.

    He's spreading the word about a device he's created which could be a solution to Africa's food waste crisis.

    Food wasted every year in the continent could feed up to 300 million people, according to the United Nations. In just Uganda alone, up to 40% of fruit and vegetables end up being discarded.

    But Lawrence, a 23-year old engineering student, hopes that his invention, the Sparky Dryer, will change everything.

    The device is a dehydrator running on garden waste that dries fruit and vegetables quickly, making them last for months instead of days.

    It looks like a small fridge and uses organic waste instead of electricity - to which few farmers in Uganda and elsewhere in Africa have regular access."

    The student trying to solve the food waste crisis
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  17. Brainaddict

    Brainaddict chief propagandist (provisional)

    A friend tried to grow vegetables to keep him going throughout the year, which naturally meant he had to use various methods of preservation too. The sheer amount of work meant he only tried to do it for one winter. For those of us with full time jobs it's not very viable.
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  18. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    No doubt it's very time consuming. I don't do much of it myself. Our culture has moved so far towards convenience the idea is quite foreign.

    And of course our society has changed in other ways. This work would have been carried out by servants in rich houses and for everyone else most likely by women.

    It doesn't seem likely that if this becomes a necessity we'll all be spending our evenings preserving food.

    More likely technological advances will progress in the home preservation industry and we'll use gadgets to do the hard work.

    Or the rich will get richer and the poor will do their work.
  19. extra dry

    extra dry Happy to be here

    Tribes grew due to sharing reasouces
  20. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    This astonishing #BronzeAge golden 'bulla', or locket, from the Shropshire Marches, England, is 3,000 years old. It was unveiled at @britishmuseum this morning by @findsorguk. This short thread attempts to shed some light on this wonderful new discovery.

    3,000 years old.
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  21. trabuquera

    trabuquera Modesty Bag

    ^ I was going to post that today! Breathtaking stuff innit?. Apparently the etched design is so fine it 'implies the use of a graver or template' (it couldn't have been done freehand) BUT it was also done on the finished piece, rather the whole thing being soldered together from pre-decorated parts. All of that implies really seriously advanced metalworking skillz.
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  22. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Having found the original tweet, it's tiny! Seriously impressive work

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  23. yield

    yield zero

    Egypt tomb: Saqqara 'one of a kind' discovery revealed
    15 December 2018
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  24. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

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  25. petee

    petee i'm spartacus

    "Now, an ultraprecise analysis of ice from a Swiss glacier by a team led by McCormick and glaciologist Paul Mayewski at the Climate Change Institute of The University of Maine (UM) in Orono has fingered a culprit. At a workshop at Harvard this week, the team reported that a cataclysmic volcanic eruption in Iceland spewed ash across the Northern Hemisphere early in 536. Two other massive eruptions followed, in 540 and 547."
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  26. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    I can see it now "They said it always comes in threes!"
  27. zahir

    zahir Well-Known Member

    A New History of Arabia, Written in Stone

    and a podcast on this: Episode 82: What Writing Can Tell Us About the Arabs before Islam | 15 Minute History
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  28. zahir

    zahir Well-Known Member

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  29. Yuwipi Woman

    Yuwipi Woman Whack-A-Mole Queen

    One of the skills I picked up in my worthless education was making pottery. I'd love to try making something like that.
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  30. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    I bet it would be really difficult to fire, good challenge :thumbs:

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