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dirtysweet
why is it 'ignorance' and not 'racism' mango?
anyone else would be get a ban for that in my experience.
ARABS: Loud Voices and just plain Shouting
- Thread starter Bang to Rights
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why is it 'ignorance' and not 'racism' mango?
anyone else would be get a ban for that in my experience.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
You realise there are about 13 million Jewish people worldwide?
There are about 300,000 in the UK.
There are a fair number of Jewish people who post here on u75.
None of the Jewish people I know are 'extremely vocal', none have 'nasaly voices', none are 'loud' and none are 'plain nasty'.
Whatever negative experiences you have had in Detroit or whatever impressions you have formed of people you come across in Detroit or wherever you live, do you not realise how stupid it is to generalise this to 13 million people?
Do you also not realise how insulting and offensive it is to accuse 13 million people of being 'nasty', the vast majority of whom you have never met and have no knowledge of at all?
Your comment is simply racist IMO (or whatever term is the equivalent in that being Jewish isn't a skin colour).
its no more racist than saying that Arabs are loud people. and we're talking 100s of millions of people here
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Anti Semitic is the term you're looking for.
Don't worry, DC has many strings to his bow like misogyny too.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Oh I agree it was a pretty silly question but you have been posting here ages and the majority of your output is ill founded horse shit that is offensive to many, many people, particularly your views about women.
mango5
Endeavour era
Clearly the OP and DC need an education. Thoughtful responses from them would help. The ban button is glowing...
The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
You really can't see the difference between suggesting that a racial group is "loud" and dismissing an entire race as "just plain nasty"?
Perhaps the OP could have been phrased a little better and yes, I am sure some could take justifiable offence at it, but I don't believe there was any real malice intended.
Your comment on the other hand...
mango5
Endeavour era
2 wrongs don't make a right
That's a childish reposnse.
alright, we'll call it a draw. i have to go to sleep now
I can understand someone saying that one culture is 'louder' than another (eg Americans being louder than eg Japanese) although this doesn't necessarily apply to any/every individual. This is also not really being judgemental.
But labelling 13 million people as 'nasty' is judgemental and doesn't make any sense, since while conversational volume is a cultural feature, 'being nasty' is not. It is you projecting and generalising onto a group that you either dislike, don't understand or feel excluded by/isolated from.
no, i think that labeling 400,000,000 people as "loud" is also judgemental and doesn't make any sense.
The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
no, i think that labeling 400,000,000 people as "loud" is also judgemental and doesn't make any sense.
You really are depressingly obtuse.
Bang to Rights
Well-Known Member
Other than the whole 'nasty' bit, that does seem to be a fair point. Why would it be more racist/anti-semitic to say that all jews are loud than to say that all arabs are loud?
The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
But the "nasty" comment is the whole point here.
Nobody is arguing this...
As said above, the OP was a little daft and perhaps ill judged, but not in the same league as DCs comments by a long chalk.
This isn't a question of which races it is more or less acceptable to espouse hateful views on*
(*For DC's benefit - This is a trick question.)
Bang to Rights
Well-Known Member
If you've actually read my original intro post and feel it deserves a banning (without further "thoughtful response") then you need not wait any longer - don't think twice, it's alright.
Bang to Rights
Well-Known Member
Spion
I hear ya
The OP is a thinly veiled racist. The *loudness* or visibility of other cultures has long been a bugbear of the cork-up-the-arse racist. In the UK loud parties by Jamaicans was the cause/excuse for many racist outrages from Notting Hill in the 1950s to the party firebombings of the 1970s.
Perhaps Sweden is just that far behind and is just getting used to there being people of a different culture about?
Perhaps Sweden is just that far behind and is just getting used to there being people of a different culture about?
Crispy
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The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
After lots of googling I have found out that the study of 'loudness' (and similar things) is called paralinguistics.
Here is an example of someone studying it:
Arab cultural communication patterns - Ellen Feghali
abstract:
In response to Shuter's (Shuter, 1990) call for the examination of communicative phenomena in particular societies worldwide, this article critically reviews the existing and, in some cases, contradictory research on cultural communication patterns in the Arab world. The article first clarifies the term “Arab” and provides boundaries for discussing communicative phenomena in the region. It then reviews recent investigations of Arab cultural communication patterns from an interdisciplinary perspective. More specifically, it focuses on several themes evident and available in the literature: (a) basic cultural values, (b) language and verbal communication, and (c) nonverbal and paralinguistic patterns. Following each theme are directions for future research. Finally, the article proposes strategies to overcome barriers to research in the Arab region and concludes with an extensive bibliography of resources. It is a hope that this article will stimulate scholarly interest in the Arab world and serve as a catalyst for the inclusion of Arab communication patterns in the teaching of intercultural communication, as well as in future research and theory development.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=fdd1752ff5089e8cc09c108803a8704b
Paralanguage refers to the non-verbal elements of communication used to modify meaning and convey emotion. Paralanguage may be expressed consciously or unconsciously, and it includes the pitch, volume, and, in some cases, intonation of speech. Sometimes the definition is restricted to vocally-produced sounds. The study of paralanguage is known as paralinguistics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralanguage
An Arab is a person who identifies as such on genealogical, linguistic or cultural grounds. The plural form, Arabs, refers to the ethnic group at large.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab
Here is an example of someone studying it:
Arab cultural communication patterns - Ellen Feghali
abstract:
In response to Shuter's (Shuter, 1990) call for the examination of communicative phenomena in particular societies worldwide, this article critically reviews the existing and, in some cases, contradictory research on cultural communication patterns in the Arab world. The article first clarifies the term “Arab” and provides boundaries for discussing communicative phenomena in the region. It then reviews recent investigations of Arab cultural communication patterns from an interdisciplinary perspective. More specifically, it focuses on several themes evident and available in the literature: (a) basic cultural values, (b) language and verbal communication, and (c) nonverbal and paralinguistic patterns. Following each theme are directions for future research. Finally, the article proposes strategies to overcome barriers to research in the Arab region and concludes with an extensive bibliography of resources. It is a hope that this article will stimulate scholarly interest in the Arab world and serve as a catalyst for the inclusion of Arab communication patterns in the teaching of intercultural communication, as well as in future research and theory development.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=fdd1752ff5089e8cc09c108803a8704b
Paralanguage refers to the non-verbal elements of communication used to modify meaning and convey emotion. Paralanguage may be expressed consciously or unconsciously, and it includes the pitch, volume, and, in some cases, intonation of speech. Sometimes the definition is restricted to vocally-produced sounds. The study of paralanguage is known as paralinguistics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralanguage
An Arab is a person who identifies as such on genealogical, linguistic or cultural grounds. The plural form, Arabs, refers to the ethnic group at large.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
When's he going to be banned permanently? He's done more than enough to justify it. He's like a slightly more socially aware Steelgate. Thank fuck he's over there, can you imagine the groping that would go on if he turned up at events.
ChrisFilter
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