apple powerbook vs sony vaio
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Ninjaboy said:
Another thing to think about is Vista, the version of Windows coming out soonish... Any Windows laptop you buy should be able deal with this or it will be horribly outdated by Spring... You'll need a laptop with a decent 3d sub-system and bundles of ram...
Oh, and avoid Dell laptops... We've had tons of problems with Dell hardware this year. And my boss got one that actually sparked and starting smoking a week after it arrived...
But at least if you get a Sony the batteries seem fine...
If you're doing music production with lots of sounds in a mix, you'll need a decent hard drive. I'd recommend getting a hard drive of at least 5400rpm in your laptop, possibly 7200rpm, if you can get it. If you can only get 4200rpm, you might want to consider getting an external drive. The rpm is the speed that the discs inside the drive spin at.
But you don't care about all that, because you're banned...
But you don't care about all that, because you're banned...
Kanda
Diving wanker
Thing about music software is it does depend on what you're used to. If it's only Reason that you're using, a Mac or a PC would be fine. If you're used to Logic, then it's Mac only nowadays (you can still get an old version for the PC though). Ableton is cross platform too. Sonar is the one that springs to mind which is PC only.
lobster
Well-Known Member
Bob_the_lost said:
For a server i would not recommend a laptop or any time-critical applications. As you said nothing too mathmatical...
For most things a laptop is fine, specs are pretty similar, for a desktop dual core there is a laptop dual core and so on...
If you want alot of real estate then a desktop is the way to go, a 24" laptop is a mightly beast to carry around..
editor
hiraethified
Such a daft and meaningless statement that. A cheap Mac is not going to be more powerful than an expensive PC and vice versa, and it's made doubly daft in the context of the OP.pk said:
Both a Vaio and a Mac have their pros and cons, but both are more than capable for Ninjaboy's needs.
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
I've had my Vaio for almost 2 years. My opinion? Lightweight. Good battery life, good screen, reliable (never so much as a flicker of a wobble and I've schlepped it all over the world).
BUT and it's a big BUT. The free software is pants. I removed all of it pretty much straight away. A client who bought the same machine as me, didn't do the same (I did tell him it might be a good idea) and he now has a laptop that takes 15 minutes to shut down and is so slow it's unusable.
BUT and it's a big BUT. The free software is pants. I removed all of it pretty much straight away. A client who bought the same machine as me, didn't do the same (I did tell him it might be a good idea) and he now has a laptop that takes 15 minutes to shut down and is so slow it's unusable.
The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
pinkmonkey said:
Yeah, a mate of mine had the same problem.
Whenever I went round there I was always spending time trying to speed the thing up and spring clean it.
Eventually - like you - I uninstalled everything with the word "sony" in it from the add/remove programs window and it ran like a dream after that!
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
The Groke said:
Exactly, it's that simple!
pk
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editor said:
The Mac, as described in the OP and indeed the thread title, is a Powerbook.
And it is more powerful than any PC laptop I know of.
It won't crash inexplicably with some garbled "debugger fatal error code 98729852435" bullshit message either.
It will never be infested with some script kiddie virus.
And it will be able to capture high definition video whilst you surf the net.
If these things are important to the OP then that is relevant, no?
editor
hiraethified
Neither does my machine, funnily enough, but seeing as you turn into some kind of obsessed Mac Fundamentalist whenever anyone dares mention anything other than a product from the Church Of Mac, I'll leave you to it.pk said:
Your weird notion that PCs haven't progressed since about 1999 is rather endearing though.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
editor said:Neither does my machine, funnily enough, but seeing as you turn into some kind of obsessed Mac Fundamentalist whenever anyone dares mention anything other than a product from the Church Of Mac, I'll leave you to it.
Trust me - if I were to try and import video into it whilst surfing this website - it would.
It's a PC. A mere toy. If Ninjatwat wants to do music seriously, he should buy the Powerbook.
pk
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editor said:Neither does my machine, funnily enough, but seeing as you turn into some kind of obsessed Mac Fundamentalist whenever anyone dares mention anything other than a product from the Church Of Mac, I'll leave you to it.
Your weird notion that PCs haven't progressed since about 1999 is rather endearing though.
I'm sat in front of a PC right now. Brand spanking. £4000 worth of HP high spec PC.
My laptop pisses all over it for speed and efficiency. Thems the facts.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Oh and LO and FUCKING BEHOLD!!!
You see, this is why I never, ever, ever recommend people go for the false economy of buying PC shite to use with video.
And fortunately - this company have taken my advice and invested in several Powerbooks and G5 machines - at half the cost of the shitty PC crap they were mis-sold less than three years ago.
PC's? Great for games! And surfing the net! And scriptkiddies!
Video work?
Unless you have a team of PC engineers on 24 hour stand-by - forget it.
Fucking load of wank, what the fuck is "nv4_disp.dll - Address BF9C50FA base at BF9BB000, DateStamp 3e5ac6a3" supposed to mean???
At least on the rare occasion when Macs crash it tells you the problem in plain English.
Bill Gates is a cunt.
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SHITCUNT PC MACHINE said:
You see, this is why I never, ever, ever recommend people go for the false economy of buying PC shite to use with video.
And fortunately - this company have taken my advice and invested in several Powerbooks and G5 machines - at half the cost of the shitty PC crap they were mis-sold less than three years ago.
PC's? Great for games! And surfing the net! And scriptkiddies!
Video work?
Unless you have a team of PC engineers on 24 hour stand-by - forget it.
Fucking load of wank, what the fuck is "nv4_disp.dll - Address BF9C50FA base at BF9BB000, DateStamp 3e5ac6a3" supposed to mean???
At least on the rare occasion when Macs crash it tells you the problem in plain English.
Bill Gates is a cunt.
x 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
editor
hiraethified
Eh? I thought that you had "Brand spanking. £4000 worth of HP high spec PC"pk said:
Anyway, your error sounds like a fucked graphics card or dodgy drivers. If they've just spent £4,000 on this new PC you should have no problem getting it replaced and the machine fixed.
Discussion: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=4432&st=60
pk
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editor said:
It is. Hence my frustration.
I've a deadline to meet and no cunt is going to come out now at this time of night to sort it. Replacing it could take upwards of a week.
I don't give a fuck as I'm charging by the hour but this latest incident will ensure the comapny I'm working for will never again buy into the lie that PC's can reliably handle more than ten minutes of hi-res video.
As I've always maintained.
Discussion: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=4432&st=60[/QUOTE]
Cheers for the link. I'm extremely pissed off and just want to go home.
DarthSydodyas
rusting
I'm gonna save up for a mac laptop, even if i have to whore my body. It might take a while, and things might shrivell up, but i'll have it one day.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
DG55 said:
I didn't. Prick.
If you had read the thread you would realise it's a special machine for working with broadcast video, and it belongs to a firm I am working for.
I did spend £2000 on my laptop though. Which has paid for itself twice over in the past 10 days alone.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
editor said:
Thing is - a Mac in similar circumstances running OSX would be telling you, in plain English, perhaps in a Californian surf-dude accent:
"Hey man, you might want to, umm, check out your video card, then just restart and you'll be sweet, have a nice day okay man? Peace.".
The PC does no such thing. It barks numbers at you instead.
"ATCHUNG! ERROR 4529879824562985625 EXTERMINATE THE ERROR - CANNOT COMPUTE CANNOT COMPUTE 2983512938561 THE DOC-TOR - KILL THE TIMELORD - EXTERMINATE 259812365913856 BACKING UP DISCOMBOMBULATING GENERATORS - LUKE I AM YOUR FATHER - 908725981635 AAAAARGH HELP ME I'M MELTING!"
Like some fucking whining dying cunt animal cunt.
No help to me whatsoever. If I wanted to learn fucking Boolean Binary code I'd have retreated to some fucking Silicon Valley School of Nerdology.
Besides, that G4 chick is hot...
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Then you should stop giving advice on hardware, since you clearly know shit about it.pk said:The Mac is more powerful than any PC laptop I know of, so it's the obvious choice.
If you're a "gamer" then the Mac isn't for you.
Buy a Playstation instead.
The macbook uses a 2.0Ghz Core Duo, the Macbook Pro has a 2.16 Ghz Core Duo.
Within about 30 seconds of opening up a new window i found a laptop that uses a 2.0Ghz Merom Core 2 Duo CPU, the new generation of laptop CPUs based upon the Conroe architecture. Apple is using old technology at the moment.
In about 20 seconds more i can find a laptop that uses a 6800EE CPU, the fastest CPU around for home use. Trust me when i say that it's not made or sold by apple. If you want power then apple is not the way to go.
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