Kid_Eternity
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Yep thin is the new cool or something. Oh yeah cheers for the thread title update Ed.
Apple 'Let's Rock' event: updated Touch, iPod and Nanos announnced
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skyscraper101
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Thing is, there's no real difference between the 120gig and the 160gig ipods in terms of its looks.
It seems like they just couldn't be arsed with it and are trying to phase out the classic iPods altogether - meaning that we have to constantly keep going back to itunes to swap around the ipod library when we're bored of it.
The cool thing about the 160gig ipod was having my entire library with me and not having to store it all at home and swap it about and free up capacity every few days.
It seems like they just couldn't be arsed with it and are trying to phase out the classic iPods altogether - meaning that we have to constantly keep going back to itunes to swap around the ipod library when we're bored of it.
The cool thing about the 160gig ipod was having my entire library with me and not having to store it all at home and swap it about and free up capacity every few days.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
The new 120gig is the same physical size as the previous 80gig.
Maybe, although I think a big factor is the nano range selling so well.
That was the reason I was originally going to get one (also to store loads of video!) but I had a think and tbh I can live with less storage for now in return for a snazzier interface or smaller form factor. Besides, the touch will one day match the current classic in terms of storage so it's on it's way out either way from what I can see...
skyscraper101
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It's not difficult. But its extra hassle if you're not at home and away from your PC or backup external hard drive.
A problem which wouldn't have existed before yesterday if you had between 120 and 160 gigs of music. Thanks.
I still have no idea why you'd need anything approaching 120gig, unless you were carrying all AIFF files?
Jeez, I'm all for a bit of a technology comfort blanket, but nobody needs to walk around with a couple of month's worth of tunes, with only a few days worth of power to boot. Fucking hell, even bad wedding DJs don't need that - it's music to savour, not something you need to carry around like a badge at all times.
Jeez, I'm all for a bit of a technology comfort blanket, but nobody needs to walk around with a couple of month's worth of tunes, with only a few days worth of power to boot. Fucking hell, even bad wedding DJs don't need that - it's music to savour, not something you need to carry around like a badge at all times.
skyscraper101
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I'm sorry are you the spokesperson for how we should enjoy music on the move? Not everybody wants to take round a laptop or an external hard drive on their travels. Believe it or not, people do go traveling for a few weeks at a time.
No shit sherlock. I simply don't know how Phileas Fogg coped on his 80 day world journey without the aid of a custom extra large mp3 player and a entire downloaded collection of music from t'interweb. As for that Marco Polo
Personally I like to travel by wagon train, 4 horse-drawn carts bringing my vinyl behind me.
Carrying a massive mp3 collection around is not the same as 'enjoying' music. It's a bit like collecting train numbers to satisfy the completionist urge.
Personally I like to travel by wagon train, 4 horse-drawn carts bringing my vinyl behind me.
Carrying a massive mp3 collection around is not the same as 'enjoying' music. It's a bit like collecting train numbers to satisfy the completionist urge.
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hiraethified
It's reassuring to know that seeing as Apple no longer provide a 160GB drive, tarannau's on hand to tell you that you didn't really want one anyway and besides, anyone carrying around so much music simply can't enjoy music as much as he does.
So in fact Apple's doing you a favour by not providing you with the GB capacity you'd like.
Breathtaking stuff!
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Never had that problem with either of my iphones...... maybe but those have got very greasy very quickly...... I suppose if you owned one if would spend 90% of its life in your pocket.....
My view too..... I have one, but tbh you cant help but give it a little rub once in a while
skyscraper101
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Isn't it just.
tarannau - you're really missing the point. Nobody said carrying a massive mp3 collection around is the same as 'enjoying' music. I'm saying carrying an MP3 player, a laptop, and a hard drive is a lot more hassle than just carrying an MP3 player. Yeah?
You can have whatever capacity you like, from whoever offers it. Second hand stores for old 160gig ipods that away, or alternate manufacturers over there.
The idea that folks need to carry around around a few months supply of music on mp3 player - because 'Not everybody wants to take round a laptop or an external hard drive on their travels' is patently ridiculous. You'll survive just fine without your full collection, a minor inconvenience at best. It's music to enjoy, not a willy-waving store of how much you can carry with you and not listen to. If you can't achieve a huge, diverse selection in a quarter of the space there's something wrong with your overall music collection - it's music, not disposable use-once nappy bags.
Choice is one thing, but railing against a company and calling them 'twats' for not offering a huge capacity, more unreliable player is another, especially given that it takes a matter of minutes to update.
Nothing about Apple doing anyone a 'favour' anywhere in my posts. Not sure where you got that from.
The idea that folks need to carry around around a few months supply of music on mp3 player - because 'Not everybody wants to take round a laptop or an external hard drive on their travels' is patently ridiculous. You'll survive just fine without your full collection, a minor inconvenience at best. It's music to enjoy, not a willy-waving store of how much you can carry with you and not listen to. If you can't achieve a huge, diverse selection in a quarter of the space there's something wrong with your overall music collection - it's music, not disposable use-once nappy bags.
Choice is one thing, but railing against a company and calling them 'twats' for not offering a huge capacity, more unreliable player is another, especially given that it takes a matter of minutes to update.
Nothing about Apple doing anyone a 'favour' anywhere in my posts. Not sure where you got that from.
skyscraper101
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You really don't get it.
There's no element of 'willy waving' about having a 160gig ipod. I'm not getting it out and boasting about how many songs it can hold. I am simply after a device that can hold my whole library, in case I want to listen to any of it - at any time - without having to get out my macbook, and firing up a separate external hard drive and then decide which songs I could possibly do without, remove them, then add the ones I know I'll want to listen to each time I go away for a few days.
Yes - of course I could survive without my music. I could probably survive without most things I carry about my person on a day to day. But that is a crap argument and you know it. Having all my tunes on my ipod does not make it any less enjoyable, and it certainly doesn't make it more disposable. If anything - having a backup of your entire itunes library makes it more secure so if you lose one, you've always got the other.
There's no element of 'willy waving' about having a 160gig ipod. I'm not getting it out and boasting about how many songs it can hold. I am simply after a device that can hold my whole library, in case I want to listen to any of it - at any time - without having to get out my macbook, and firing up a separate external hard drive and then decide which songs I could possibly do without, remove them, then add the ones I know I'll want to listen to each time I go away for a few days.
Yes - of course I could survive without my music. I could probably survive without most things I carry about my person on a day to day. But that is a crap argument and you know it. Having all my tunes on my ipod does not make it any less enjoyable, and it certainly doesn't make it more disposable. If anything - having a backup of your entire itunes library makes it more secure so if you lose one, you've always got the other.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
This thread has got a little odd.
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hiraethified
Why should you care about how much capacity people want on their MP3 players?
Surely it's better to have too much capacity than too little? And it's easy to fill up even huge hard drives if you're regularly adding podcasts, movies and TV shows to your MP3 collection. Or maybe you just like lots of free space for the future. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Why on earth would people not 'enjoy' music as much as you just because they prefer to carry a lot of songs around? It's a really weird attitude, mate.tarannau said:
To be honest, I'd say your hectoring attitude here is purely borne out of your bizarre need to defend Apple's disappointing (to some) decision to withdraw their larger capacity iPods.
I'd wager that if Apple had announced a 250GB iPod yesterday, there'd have been no complaints from you and you wouldn't have published your utterly bonkers lecture about the size of the portable hard drive determining how much a user 'enjoys' music.
I don't care a huge amount - it's only when they start making bizarre claims and getting all 
about about a corporate being 'twats' when they withdraw an end of line model. i poked fun with an entirely serious Phileas Fogg joke and apparently then it's a load of facetious BS about about me being a spokesman for enjoyment of music on the go or sticking up for Apple.
FWIW, I said much the same thing when the last batch of ipod touches came out, jesting at those who kept on wittering on how they'd never buy a touch until it could hold their own collection. I believe KE could have been one of them.
You see, I'm a consistent miserable bugger. The same applies regardless of manufacturer.
about about a corporate being 'twats' when they withdraw an end of line model. i poked fun with an entirely serious Phileas Fogg joke and apparently then it's a load of facetious BS about about me being a spokesman for enjoyment of music on the go or sticking up for Apple. FWIW, I said much the same thing when the last batch of ipod touches came out, jesting at those who kept on wittering on how they'd never buy a touch until it could hold their own collection. I believe KE could have been one of them.
You see, I'm a consistent miserable bugger. The same applies regardless of manufacturer.
untethered
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Obviously you can't please everyone all the time, but I'm sure a company as smart/evil as Apple did some research about how much music people actually have and came to the conclusion that they could live without the ones that have more than 120GB -- at least until the next "refresh".
For myself, I'm more than happy to carry around a very tightly-edited collection on a little Sansa Clip 2GB player.
Overall I'm semi-tempted by the new Nanos but probably not so much as I'd actually buy one.
On the point of the Classic line, it's clear to me that Apple sees novel user interface improvements as one point of differentiation over what we might generously call the competition. I suspect that putting an accelerometer and "shake to shuffle" on a hard-drive based player wouldn't do it much good, hence the focus shifting to the flash-based ranges. So while this overall batch of upgrades isn't that spectacular, the accelerometer in the Nano is potentially interesting and an indication of things to come.
Sunray
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Perhaps they are going to be offering a 240Gb version in the near future, so ditched the 160Gb so it will sell out before they introduce the new bigger model?
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/10/toshiba-unveils-tiny-240-gb-hd
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/10/toshiba-unveils-tiny-240-gb-hd
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hiraethified
Noooo! That'll send tarannau into overdrive!
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hiraethified
The company's obscenely rich and raking in cash by the barrowload, so I'm sure Skyscraper's opinion isn't going to bother them in the slightest.I doubt it. It may stop old Skyscraper throwing his toys out of his pram and calling them 'twats' though.
So why should you care if someone calls them 'twats'?
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to think i was vaguely considering it 
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