Apple is amazing
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Bernie Gunther said:
You're talking about a 3500kg server system with "optimised cooling and power usage". This thing is probably running at power densities of 10W/kg or more. (notably, I spent 10 minutes failing to find power consumption figures...)
Mind you, it also has insane I/O, bandwidth, CPU speed, connectivity and so forth.
electrogirl
dignity is overrated
exleper said:is it possible for users to be banned from specific thread topics?
If so we might be able to have a Beatles thread without it descending into a ruckus.*looks at Dubversion*
Bernie Gunther
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Those big boys require three phase power, but they're still pretty modest next to a high-end saloon car, of which there are many more.rich! said:
moose
like some cat from Japan
Because most people probably have no problems with them whatsoever. I've been using Macs daily since 1986 and only ever had one die on me, and that was a IIcx back in 1988 when a ceiling collapsed on it. I look after 12 of them at work, and have 2 at home, (including laptops) all of which run extremely well.tom k&e said:Apple laptops are so completely underpowered and overpriced these days, and the build quality is notoriously shoddy, I don't understand why people buy them
If you don't like 'em, fair enough, but stop trying to put a downer on someone who's just got a new one and is chuffed with it, or next time you get new shoes I'll come and piss on them.
moose said:Because most people probably have no problems with them whatsoever. I've been using Macs daily since 1986 and only ever had one die on me, and that was a IIcx back in 1988 when a ceiling collapsed on it. I look after 12 of them at work, and have 2 at home, (including laptops) all of which run extremely well.
If you don't like 'em, fair enough, but stop trying to put a downer on someone who's just got a new one and is chuffed with it, or next time you get new shoes I'll come and piss on them.
Thats a monumental lie though. OS 9 and pre os-x was a huge pile of shit, and everyone knows it. Dont tell me you never had the problem of renaming important files 'nothing', and when copying files only copying the shortcut. It was total unintuitive crap, there is no opinion on the matter, it just was.
It became much better in os-x, when these features notably turned the way of windows, like the previous copying shortcuts thing, renaming files 'nothing, even right click support.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Meanwhile Microsoft braces itself for a PR disaster as their X-Box 360 proves to be a hastily packaged untested piece of shit...
Both Apple and MS are guilty of ripping off the general public and using customers as beta-testers, such is the speed of the market these days.
But having used both machines extensively for fifteen years, I'd never buy a PC, that I do know.
Getting a free one off a mate soon, but he custom built it and knows what he's doing - he's upgraded now and the missus needs a machine to print invoices and stuff, I guess I'll be running a Soulseek account from it... but any serious work I need to do will be done on my Powerbook.
Another mate bought a brand new Dell - I cannot believe how slow that piece of shit is - I've never seen a Mac as slow as that thing...
Both Apple and MS are guilty of ripping off the general public and using customers as beta-testers, such is the speed of the market these days.
But having used both machines extensively for fifteen years, I'd never buy a PC, that I do know.
Getting a free one off a mate soon, but he custom built it and knows what he's doing - he's upgraded now and the missus needs a machine to print invoices and stuff, I guess I'll be running a Soulseek account from it... but any serious work I need to do will be done on my Powerbook.
Another mate bought a brand new Dell - I cannot believe how slow that piece of shit is - I've never seen a Mac as slow as that thing...
Iam said:Jammy...
"Don't support" means that if any of my friends have a problem with Windows my solution is to (a) make sure they have backed up their data and (b) use a slipstream distro of Windows to reinstall everything they'll need.
Actual time for me is about 10 mins. Time for them is about a day or so turnaround.
And this is all I'll do for them -- they can get spyware,etc, but I'm not going to maintain a piece of shit for them.
Well, I don't really have any choice. It's not possible or reasonable for me to ignore Windows professionally, because it's too prevalent and too many systems need to interact with Windows systems.
I don't do an awful lot of home support for people, but in general I find it easier to troubleshoot their Windows issues than spend a year teaching them Linux SysAdmin...
I don't do an awful lot of home support for people, but in general I find it easier to troubleshoot their Windows issues than spend a year teaching them Linux SysAdmin...
DG55 said:
(Pointless Mac-hugger mode: On) In my first ever job I maintained a netowrk of Sytem 7.5.1, 7.6 Macs of around 30 or so Macs. Our Finance lot had 10 PCs... Guess which ones where always needing maintaining...? And this was before the wonders of spyware and adaware.
Oh, you know if you use OS X you get free oral sex once a week...
pk said:
There's real irony to the fact that in a year, microsoft will be the PPC's only user, and apple will have switched to intel, esp. as AMD have a huge price/performance edge at the moment.
The x360's problems are nothing as compared to the first generation ps2
as you say, all major products these days seem to be buggy at first release. I certainly won't pay a premium for an unreliable machine with no games.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Me neither - though I've never seen the appeal of video games... with the possible exception of the sublime Grand Theft Auto.
I have an old PS1 somewhere, but only for when the school-age relatives pop round, keeps 'em quiet...
I have an old PS1 somewhere, but only for when the school-age relatives pop round, keeps 'em quiet...
tom k&e said:There's real irony to the fact that in a year, microsoft will be the PPC's only user, and apple will have switched to intel, esp. as AMD have a huge price/performance edge at the moment.
The x360's problems are nothing as compared to the first generation ps2
DG55 said:
No, they're moving because of supply problems and a lack of a portable G5 chip - insiders overwhelmingly say that the move to x86 was a bluff that IBM called. The architecture is a brilliant one, that's indisputable - the pipelines in the G5 make those in the P4 look like the sodding yellow brick road and it's got the best branch prediction of any desktop chip. If you're going to bash macs, pick something that is actually wrong with them, like the really inelegant handling of huge numbers of simultaneous but trivial tasks as a result of a monolithic kernel being bolted on top of mach.
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