Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

Discussion in 'mobiles, tablets and wearable tech' started by editor, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

  2. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Ahem
     
  3. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    They even renamed the ipads os just to rub it in :D
     
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  4. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Did you set an alarm in your calendar for this date, 5 years ago?
     
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  5. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    :D
     
  6. editor

    editor hiraethified

    What was the bet you had about bezel less phones?
     
  7. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    That was about tablets iirc
     
  8. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    You've known me for at least that long and need to ask? :D
     
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  9. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Yep. Ipads still have bezels, despite it being technologically trivial to do away with them.
     
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  10. skyscraper101

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  11. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Apple were not at all keen on the mouse part of that. They have actually added bluetooth mouse support to ipadOS, but as an accessibility feature with accessibility cursor rather than standard pointer, and its not something they are promoting to the masses, they kept pretty quiet about it.
     
  12. editor

    editor hiraethified

  13. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    OLED screens in laptops would be lovely. Even if I can't afford one.
     
  14. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

  15. editor

    editor hiraethified

  16. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

  17. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

  18. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

  19. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    New but not very exciting iPhones unless you’re in it for camera improvements are announced on September 10. Rumours of new watch as well have surfaced in recent weeks, main reason for no big rumours about those is probably due to the form factor remaining pretty much the same as the series 4 so accessory makers haven’t had anything new to go on.

    Personally don’t see the point in spending close to grand on a new phone that won’t support 5G, especially as we want our phones to last much longer these days and many of us happy to do battery swaps instead when the time comes. I also doubt the camera will be as good as anything we see on the huawei phones currently. Hopefully 2020 lineup will be more exciting.

    Apple Invites Media to September 10 Event at Apple Park: 'By Innovation Only'
     
  20. editor

    editor hiraethified

  21. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Thats a pretty stupid headline really. The latest of those vulnerabilities were patched and disclosed in February. The new report is all the nerdy detail about 5 different attack chains that made use of various vulnerabilities, and it certainly isnt the sort of information a billion people are expected to look at.

    Its still a very serious business that is worthy of press attention, I just wish the article covered more of the actual intent of this latest detailed report, and not make up their own hyperbole about a billion users. Especially as Ian Beer of Project Zero, in his preamble, wants to draw attention to certain things that the Forbes article apparently does not.

    Project Zero: A very deep dive into iOS Exploit chains found in the wild

    The Forbes article only goes as far as to quote 'This indicated a group making a sustained effort to hack the users of iPhones in certain communities over a period of at least two years.'

    Well, the phrase 'certain communities' is a big part of the reason why i decided to have a closer look. Let me add the other quotes from Ian Beer that are relevant:

    So yeah, Forbes had their own story they wanted to tell, one that wasnt about dissidents and potential dissidents and broader public in 'sensitive regions' being targeted.
     
  22. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

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  23. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Not sure why you should believe either of 'em.
     
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  24. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    It’s iPhone announcement day. Not a whole lot of innovation going on. Just the usual here’s something someone else has already done but we’ll do a better job of it.

    Apple Arcade, Apple TV+ which if UK prices are to match US will be £4.99 a month for the whole family, which could start a price war in the states with other content providers so on the flip that’s kinda good news especially after Netflix price rises. Apple TV+ is also free for a year with any new product purchase.

    New iPad and iPad os.

    New watch. Nothing major, which is always telling when the previous years model gets withdrawn from sale because it basically means it’s just as good so we can’t continue selling it for cheaper. Only major improvement is the display will remain on and this apparently doesn’t effect battery performance. One assumes you can turn it off to get better battery but who knows?

    New iPhones nothing exciting other than better battery life like every year and improved cameras. I’ll keep my iPhone X for another year. Can’t really see why anyone would want to spend £699+ (From £399 with an iPhone 8 trade in, usually no good to me as my current phone usually ends up being handed down to my mum, so she’ll be gutted as she’s been eyeing up mine since I had it) on a new phone in 2019 that doesn’t support 5G. The low light camera looks great but yeah. Just basically doing what everyone else has already been doing. Be interesting to see where the camera ends up on dxomark to see if it’s outdone the others.

    iOS 13 available from the 19th.

    What didn’t get announced that we expected. A baked in sleep app for the watch, no shatter resistant screens (although looked a hint of it in a video that showed people throwing around iPhones, maybe they forgot to cut that bit out) no charging other devices from the phone a la Samsung.

    If you want to here more from a non Apple biased view check out the verge.

    Apple

    Next years rumour mill already sounds much more exciting with return of Touch ID anywhere on the screen and 5G. Two major killer features along with hopefully even better cameras that would probably make me think about a pre-order. Cash flow withstanding.

    Also. ‘Still’ no improvements on the pathetic 5Gig of free space in iCloud. Which is a now becoming a bit of a running joke.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2019
  25. Supine

    Supine Rough Like Badger

    No 5G. They really missed the boat on this one :hmm:
     
  26. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    They’ve always been slow to adopt new network types. It’s the same with every other ‘innovation’ from them these days. Others may beat them to the punch but they won’t release it until it actually works properly and the masses can access it. While it’s still new they won’t go near it so they can’t be blamed when it don’t work.

    You can already see next years headlines, when they take the glory for mass 5G adoption. :rolleyes:
     
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  27. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Is there anything in these new iPhones that hasn't already been done elsewhere?
    From what I've read so far, I think those tragic fanboy queues will be shrinking even more for this lot.
     
  28. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    It's been the case from day 1 though really hasn't it? They just do existing tech well for the people who like it.

    Harder of course these days when the competition is slicker.
     
  29. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Well, the underlying hardware and software is probably a ton better than what’s already out there to do the stuff on. No doubt the AI stuff for the camera will be exceptional otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered spending time on it during the demonstration. Looking forward to the dxomark review to see where it ends up.
     
  30. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Phone industry has reached peak innovation.
    Just like the PC industry did.

    Phones pretty much do what you need em to do now at more than sufficient speed and quality.

    I don't need to fire lasers from my phone so it doesn't need a high energy laser array.
     
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