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cybershot

Well-Known Member
New but not very exciting iPhones unless you’re in it for camera improvements are announced on September 10. Rumours of new watch as well have surfaced in recent weeks, main reason for no big rumours about those is probably due to the form factor remaining pretty much the same as the series 4 so accessory makers haven’t had anything new to go on.

Personally don’t see the point in spending close to grand on a new phone that won’t support 5G, especially as we want our phones to last much longer these days and many of us happy to do battery swaps instead when the time comes. I also doubt the camera will be as good as anything we see on the huawei phones currently. Hopefully 2020 lineup will be more exciting.

Apple Invites Media to September 10 Event at Apple Park: 'By Innovation Only'
 

elbows

WoeTimer
Thats a pretty stupid headline really. The latest of those vulnerabilities were patched and disclosed in February. The new report is all the nerdy detail about 5 different attack chains that made use of various vulnerabilities, and it certainly isnt the sort of information a billion people are expected to look at.

Its still a very serious business that is worthy of press attention, I just wish the article covered more of the actual intent of this latest detailed report, and not make up their own hyperbole about a billion users. Especially as Ian Beer of Project Zero, in his preamble, wants to draw attention to certain things that the Forbes article apparently does not.

Project Zero: A very deep dive into iOS Exploit chains found in the wild

The Forbes article only goes as far as to quote 'This indicated a group making a sustained effort to hack the users of iPhones in certain communities over a period of at least two years.'

Well, the phrase 'certain communities' is a big part of the reason why i decided to have a closer look. Let me add the other quotes from Ian Beer that are relevant:

"To be targeted might mean simply being born in a certain geographic region or being part of a certain ethnic group."

I hope to guide the general discussion around exploitation away from a focus on the the million dollar dissident and towards discussion of the marginal cost for monitoring the n+1'th potential future dissident. I shan't get into a discussion of whether these exploits cost $1 million, $2 million, or $20 million. I will instead suggest that all of those price tags seem low for the capability to target and monitor the private activities of entire populations in real time.
So yeah, Forbes had their own story they wanted to tell, one that wasnt about dissidents and potential dissidents and broader public in 'sensitive regions' being targeted.
 

cybershot

Well-Known Member
It’s iPhone announcement day. Not a whole lot of innovation going on. Just the usual here’s something someone else has already done but we’ll do a better job of it.

Apple Arcade, Apple TV+ which if UK prices are to match US will be £4.99 a month for the whole family, which could start a price war in the states with other content providers so on the flip that’s kinda good news especially after Netflix price rises. Apple TV+ is also free for a year with any new product purchase.

New iPad and iPad os.

New watch. Nothing major, which is always telling when the previous years model gets withdrawn from sale because it basically means it’s just as good so we can’t continue selling it for cheaper. Only major improvement is the display will remain on and this apparently doesn’t effect battery performance. One assumes you can turn it off to get better battery but who knows?

New iPhones nothing exciting other than better battery life like every year and improved cameras. I’ll keep my iPhone X for another year. Can’t really see why anyone would want to spend £699+ (From £399 with an iPhone 8 trade in, usually no good to me as my current phone usually ends up being handed down to my mum, so she’ll be gutted as she’s been eyeing up mine since I had it) on a new phone in 2019 that doesn’t support 5G. The low light camera looks great but yeah. Just basically doing what everyone else has already been doing. Be interesting to see where the camera ends up on dxomark to see if it’s outdone the others.

iOS 13 available from the 19th.

What didn’t get announced that we expected. A baked in sleep app for the watch, no shatter resistant screens (although looked a hint of it in a video that showed people throwing around iPhones, maybe they forgot to cut that bit out) no charging other devices from the phone a la Samsung.

If you want to here more from a non Apple biased view check out the verge.

Apple

Next years rumour mill already sounds much more exciting with return of Touch ID anywhere on the screen and 5G. Two major killer features along with hopefully even better cameras that would probably make me think about a pre-order. Cash flow withstanding.

Also. ‘Still’ no improvements on the pathetic 5Gig of free space in iCloud. Which is a now becoming a bit of a running joke.
 
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cybershot

Well-Known Member
No 5G. They really missed the boat on this one :hmm:
They’ve always been slow to adopt new network types. It’s the same with every other ‘innovation’ from them these days. Others may beat them to the punch but they won’t release it until it actually works properly and the masses can access it. While it’s still new they won’t go near it so they can’t be blamed when it don’t work.

You can already see next years headlines, when they take the glory for mass 5G adoption. :rolleyes:
 

editor

hiraethified
Is there anything in these new iPhones that hasn't already been done elsewhere?
From what I've read so far, I think those tragic fanboy queues will be shrinking even more for this lot.
 

UnderAnOpenSky

baseline neural therapy
Is there anything in these new iPhones that hasn't already been done elsewhere?
From what I've read so far, I think those tragic fanboy queues will be shrinking even more for this lot.
It's been the case from day 1 though really hasn't it? They just do existing tech well for the people who like it.

Harder of course these days when the competition is slicker.
 

cybershot

Well-Known Member
Is there anything in these new iPhones that hasn't already been done elsewhere?
From what I've read so far, I think those tragic fanboy queues will be shrinking even more for this lot.
Well, the underlying hardware and software is probably a ton better than what’s already out there to do the stuff on. No doubt the AI stuff for the camera will be exceptional otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered spending time on it during the demonstration. Looking forward to the dxomark review to see where it ends up.
 

Gromit

International Man of Misery
Is there anything in these new iPhones that hasn't already been done elsewhere?
From what I've read so far, I think those tragic fanboy queues will be shrinking even more for this lot.
Phone industry has reached peak innovation.
Just like the PC industry did.

Phones pretty much do what you need em to do now at more than sufficient speed and quality.

I don't need to fire lasers from my phone so it doesn't need a high energy laser array.
 
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