"Apple admits" broke "UK boffin invented the iPod"
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hiraethified
In what way, exactly?
There's far more people surfing the web on Nokia mobiles than iPhones and RIM completely outshines Apple when it comes mobile email.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
That's going to be true for sheer numbers, but I bet a much larger percentage of iphone users browse the net using their mobiles. I know loads of people with phones capable of going on the net that didn't know they could or have no inclination to do so.
editor
hiraethified
Well, I'm sure they do. And more people probably use Blackberry's for email. And maybe more WM users work on Office documents.
But none of that changes the fact that Nokia are absolutely dominant in the global smartphone market though.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
For sure, but if a large percentage the users aren't using many of the features, then there is less incentive to try and improve the design. Without wanting to drag up the debate about what a smart phone is, the most advanced thing many people are likely to do with their "smartphone" is take a picture and maybe send it to their mate.
editor
hiraethified
Or take a video. Or send a picture message. Loads of users do that all the time. In fact, YouTube is stuffed full of mobile phone clips
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Well I covered the picture messaging thing and video is just an extension of that.
I think we're going of on tangents here though. The Nokia interface is unchanged after many years and features like browsing the net, playing music and PIM software could be a lot better.
Like I said a few few posts ago, apple have done little new, just put it together really well. If Nokia had invested a small percentage on the usability of the OS that they had on hardware, then they may something to rival Apple. By putting together a nice package apple are encouraging consumers to things on their phones that they may not have done before or not done regularly because it was to fiddly, despite being possible.
I think we're going of on tangents here though. The Nokia interface is unchanged after many years and features like browsing the net, playing music and PIM software could be a lot better.
Like I said a few few posts ago, apple have done little new, just put it together really well. If Nokia had invested a small percentage on the usability of the OS that they had on hardware, then they may something to rival Apple. By putting together a nice package apple are encouraging consumers to things on their phones that they may not have done before or not done regularly because it was to fiddly, despite being possible.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
What are you LOL'ing about?
In the time since I posted that, my Nokia has gone to shit. Sound cuts out when talking, it crashes when playing music, very slow apps access.
Ever actually owned one, Editor?
Much like the Mac you're keen to slate, I suspect not...
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Bit of a pronk here.....
But doesnt it state in the article that the inventor used a one button system on his early MP3 player? Could that relate to any claim that he had with the original iPod? If he's claiming that the technology of storing music on a chip was his copyright then why specifially go after apple considering I had a 128MB mp3 player when apple where still trying to save themselves from their completely rubbish GUI.
But doesnt it state in the article that the inventor used a one button system on his early MP3 player? Could that relate to any claim that he had with the original iPod? If he's claiming that the technology of storing music on a chip was his copyright then why specifially go after apple considering I had a 128MB mp3 player when apple where still trying to save themselves from their completely rubbish GUI.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Well that is unfortunate, but what's made the iPhone suddenly stop appearing like a "toy" and only being "good for girls" as a "compact mirror"?
As much as it is a lady's prerogative to change her mind, it is mine to want the upgraded iPhone now that it's fairly stable.
Plus it makes sense to have a machine that syncs with my Macs.
editor
hiraethified
Ya rly.
You can make most phones sync with your Mac with the Missing Sync software, by the way - Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Blackberry, WM, Motorola and Palm all work a treat.
http://www.markspace.com/
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
I've managed a partial sync, but the calendar data won't sync.
Never has, on any Nokia I've tried, even with the laborious file replacing hacks out there.
What's the "ya rly" about anyway?
Really PK? I've never had a problem using isync or any of the plugins from 3rd parties. My new Sony Ericsson (C902) syncs just fine with a £1.50 feisar plugin and I've never had probs with Nokias and macs in the past - in fact they're one of the few where contact pictures sync across easily.
FridgeMagnet
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Yeah, actually, I was going to say the same - my N73 syncs well. I think I had to install an iSync application on the actual phone but everything seems to work now. Though the N73 has rather poor PIM functions anyway so I don't sync it that often, I have a Palm for that.
I'd still prefer an iPhone mind you, but only if somebody else is going to pay.
I'd still prefer an iPhone mind you, but only if somebody else is going to pay.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Sony do generally do a better job with Bluetooth than Nokia, it's true. Sony were actually involved in designing the spec for Bluetooth iirc so that's fair enough.
editor
hiraethified
Mind you the Bluetooth on my old Sony laptop was a shocker: it made ridicuous sonar submarine noises when searching for nearby devices and was one of the worst, clunkiest interfaces I'd ever used.
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
That explains it..... I never really got on with modern nokias, always found them to be a bit buggy and that extends to the N95 and the N96. That said the classic nokias like the 3210, 3310 were pieces of art!
I had a motorla A920..... that was the worst for connectivity with my mac.
On my sony ericsson it all worked brill and i even got an app called salling clicker which allowed me to control itunes from the phone which was really handy.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Well if there's a solution to syncing the N95 8GB I'd be grateful... none of the ones I have found work.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Yup, I'm not paying for it, the company will when my current contract expires.
editor
hiraethified
I've already told you! Missing Sync will do the job - and it'll even sync your Mac and N95 wirelessly when you're within Bluetooth range.
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/29/mark-space-ships-missing-sync-for-symbian/
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
I would agree with the sentiment but in terms of hardware they are probably the most focused hardware/software manufacturer out there. The teams are very likely sitting in the same room. Apple (Steve Jobs) realised a long time ago, that hardware is useless without software to drive it. Unfortunately, giving software developers hardware and expecting results also is a recipe for failure. Both must be working together to achieve a cohesion of usability and simplicity. It looks all so simple, but I know that to pull off both at the same time takes some real innovation but also an iron will.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
LOL! I'm not paying $40 for it!!
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