billythefish
toad licker
No post or bin collection here yet, but I saw a postman today riding a bike down Coldharbour lane, and a post van collecting from Elm Park post office yesterday, so I guess things are slowly returning to normal.
Anyone Had Any Post?
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Addy
cooking...
This would be the point of a community service for dole money scheme.
Every long term unemployed claimant should have to do 16 hrs of community work to make good their claim.
It would encourage some to look for employment.
It would improve the look of the area.
It would add value to the local areas.
It would encourage a social network for those that get stuck in the 'dole rut'.
It would be educational/job training.
...etc..
What pisses me off is that I managed to get to work safely (hardly any risk at all), yet the local services failed to do their job...refuse collection/recycling colletion, but there is no rebate to my council tax for this 'day off' that they took.
2" of snow and the country has epic fail.... fucking bunch of lightweight cunts.
ajdown
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Indeed. I'm tempted to spend an hour or so tonight clearing outside my house, doing the council's job, and send them an invoice for my time as they failed to provide some fairly elementary service. Again.
Once I can get to the bus stop it's fine, but it's leading up to it, having to do that strange "that fart felt a bit too wet so I think I'd better go to the bathroom and see if I followed through" walk all the way.
No post since Saturday, but the postbox sounded like it'd been emptied when I posted some letters today. No rubbish collected. Probably doesn't help that the main road has been cleared, but not the pavement or many of the paths.
Water Lane Surgery has a clear path from gateway to door, but the pavement is still icy & untouched.
Water Lane Surgery has a clear path from gateway to door, but the pavement is still icy & untouched.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
What money do you think they saved even if the bin collectors did get the day off? Salaries? Nope. Maintenance? Nope - if anything the vehicles will need more attention in the cold. Overheads? Please.
You can have your money back, as long as you admit that it's money that the council didn't save, and had to spend on that day anyway, so you're basically stealing from your local community
Just think about it before mouthing off and be a little bit fucking reasonable, that's all we ask
As for the Royal Mail, they've been so shit since privatisation they deserve all the stick they get.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
I just *know* that if the council maintained a permanent winter snow-clearing capability, you would be the *first* to whine that they were spending money to be ready for an event that occurs once every 20 years.
But you didn't think about that before moaning did you?
There are many things wrong with local councils, but you and addy should both learn to complain about the things that matter - but that would mean educating yourselves and engaging your brains wouldn't it?
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Addy
cooking...
What money do you think they saved even if the bin collectors did get the day off? Salaries? Nope. Maintenance? Nope - if anything the vehicles will need more attention in the cold. Overheads? Please.
You can have your money back, as long as you admit that it's money that the council didn't save, and had to spend on that day anyway, so you're basically stealing from your local community
Just think about it before mouthing off and be a little bit fucking reasonable, that's all we ask
As for the Royal Mail, they've been so shit since privatisation they deserve all the stick they get.
....and in the meantime, I have to suffer with an overflowing bin that may attract vermin, and take my recycleable items to the refuse depot at my cost....oohh thats now twice i've had to pay for the service.
I'll fucking mouth off as much as I want to pal, who the fuck are you?
(smileys make it ok to be aggresive apparently)
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
If that's your normal service then it's worth complaining about. If it's because of the worst snowfall for 18 years, then learn some flexibility for christs sake.
The point was - and you seem to not have noticed this - that the council couldn't possibly be saving money if their binmen weren't out working that day. So your demand for money back was just macho posturing or ignorance or both.
I've never even worked for a local council - it just takes a bit of thought to see that you were talking rubbish.
Addy
cooking...
The money thing was an off the cuff remark as in 'i'm not getting the service I have been charged for'.
And if people cant go about their normal buissness with a couple of inches of snow on the ground then the country is propper fucked.
How on earth do the colder climate countries manage.
And if people cant go about their normal buissness with a couple of inches of snow on the ground then the country is propper fucked.
How on earth do the colder climate countries manage.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
ajdown
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How on earth do the colder climate countries manage.
Because they have invested the money in the appropriate infrastructure and reserves required to deal with it when it happens, rather than ignoring it and hoping it melts soon.
I'd more than happily stay at home because of the bad weather, sadly many employers don't see it that way, then when some fuckwit spends nearly 2 hours walking to work they moan because everyone else didn't show the same "level of commitment".
It's a job, not a lifestyle. It takes its appropriate place in my priority list.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
hang on before we start tying up these health unemployed employees can we not get the sick to clear the streets save the health workers for more of the labouring road mending type jobs...This would be the point of a community service for dole money scheme.
Every long term unemployed claimant should have to do 16 hrs of community work to make good their claim.
It would encourage some to look for employment.
It would improve the look of the area.
It would add value to the local areas.
It would encourage a social network for those that get stuck in the 'dole rut'.
It would be educational/job training.
...etc..
What pisses me off is that I managed to get to work safely (hardly any risk at all), yet the local services failed to do their job...refuse collection/recycling colletion, but there is no rebate to my council tax for this 'day off' that they took.
2" of snow and the country has epic fail.... fucking bunch of lightweight cunts.
Addy
cooking...
....and working for a company that has just made 1500 people redundant, and part of the 'scoring criteria' is absenteism, some people feel threatened to take time off work due to a 'little' snowfall.
Shit, I remember trudging through 2 feet of snow to get to school as a kid, and the only time the school closed was when there was a burst pipe or heating failure.
The country is breeding a culture of lightweights.
Addy
cooking...
hang on before we start tying up these health unemployed employees can we not get the sick to clear the streets save the health workers for more of the labouring road mending type jobs...
Fantastic idea Garf, i'll put it to my local councilor.
(might aswell get my monies worth out of them)
ajdown
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Legitimate days off are not the same as "taking a sickie because you have a hangover".
Fucking business assholes are causing the problem here, not people thinking common sense; after all would they rather you took a day off because of the dangerous conditions outside, or 3 months off work because of a broken leg?
Who decides that "a billion pounds of productivity per day" is lost because of the snow?
Utter, utter fucking bollocks. They should be ashamed of themselves for causing such a panic.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
How on earth do the colder climate countries manage.
Well having lived for sometime in a place which is knee-deep in snow for about 4 months of the year. So much so that it is referred to as "snow country". I'll tell you about my experiences.
All roads have sand boxes along the road which are permanently filled over winter due to the inevitability of snow.
The road where I lived had to be closed during winter as it was too steep for cars to drive up (I know this from foolishly ignoring this and getting out of my own car one day to put down sand only to see it slide backwards down the hill without me in it.). As a result the local park at the bottom of the hill was turned into a car park and everyone walked up to work.
Everyone changed their tyres and wind-screen wipers twice a year to switch between winter (snow tyres) and summer.
A representative from every household in the neighbourhood was required (by social pressure) to come out as a group and clean the neighbourhood up once a month (no whingeing about overflowing bins etc... whilst this was generally taken care of by the local councils everyone recognised that shit happens and would get together to take on a bit of responsibility for their own local area and sort it out). In winter this would extend to shovelling snow. Particular attention would be paid to elderly neighbours who were unable to do it themselves.
Here we get snow of this sort once in a blue moon. It causes some disruption - that's life and it would be nice if we could deal with these things ourselves and take just a little bit of responsibility and perhaps put up with a little bit of discomfort for a few days without having to instantly blame someone else - the binmen, the council, the postmen, the teachers blah blah blah blah ad infinitum. Brainaddict also makes a very good point that maintaining some permanent snow clearing capability would be a complete waste of public money.
Addy
cooking...
...but come on, were talking a couple of inches, not a foot or 2 or huge drifts.
If I can manage to do my 35 miles to/from work (taking only an extra 15 minutes) surely a bin lorry can continue round the streets at its normal (slow) pace and collect rubish.
Severe weather forcasts... they're having a laugh.
Oh, I see a bit of snow in the air, lets all barricade ourselvs indoors just in case we die.
Lightweights!
If I can manage to do my 35 miles to/from work (taking only an extra 15 minutes) surely a bin lorry can continue round the streets at its normal (slow) pace and collect rubish.
Severe weather forcasts... they're having a laugh.
Oh, I see a bit of snow in the air, lets all barricade ourselvs indoors just in case we die.
Lightweights!
ajdown
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Perhaps the real blame lies with "business leaders" who feel that everyone should go into work regardless of how utterly impossible it actually might be, and if it means you have to get up 3 hours early just to get in on time, that's considered acceptable.
There's too much pressure on non-essential personnel in times like this when it really just is not necessary. The world is not gonna fall apart if shops and offices are shut for a day or so.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Just how much rubbish do you generate? We are a family who haven't had their bin collected for over a week because of the snow and there are still only two binbags in there.
ajdown
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I still have 8 inches of snow on top of my wheelie bin. The roads and pavements are still covered in several inches of sheet ice making it very dangerous to be out where the roads and pavements have not been treated.
For many people - including my disabled partner - going out is not just dangerous, it's just plain impossible.
Addy
cooking...
A family of 5 generating a 'normal' ammount of waste / recycleables which will be 2 weeks worth by the end of this week.
We only had a light covering of snow in the midlands, and most of it fell during monday.
Temperatures were warm, so all major roads were clear, and urban estates were not dangerous to travel on.
Everyones conditions/circumstances are different, but I see no reason why there was service disruption in these parts due to a light snowfall.
Hell, we might aswell tell the fireservice, paramedics and ambulance drivers to stay indoors, they could be a danger to anyone who ventures out...(all you snowmen builders and toboganists beware)
