Anyone else see PMs Question Time? - pass the fucking vomit bucket

[nino_savatte]

If nino starts talking about exceptions then there has to be something to campare it with.

What London calling said. The only comparison to be made between Eden and Blair is the ill-conceived rush to fight a war in the Middle East. Eden didn't take final PMQTs to give some sort of grandstanding swansong to the assembled MPs and strangers. Eden went pretty quietly.

 

[nino_savatte]

Well I've only got recallection of 3 PMs leaving. Major had to go after losing a G.E., Maggie didn't want to go, but had to following a leadership challenge from her own party. I vaguely remember her playing to the house on her last day. Before that, in any case, the HOC wasn't televised.

I don't doubt Blair is vain, but that doesn't alter the fact I think his government has changed this country for the better. Only a bit, but I still think it was worth turning out to vote in 1997.

Neither of those former PMs gave a final performance (because that's what it was) to the Commons. Even the BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, noted that Blair had "broken with tradition" as he was on his way to give his final grandstanding performance.

The rest of your post has been noted.

 

[Haller]

Sadly not broadcast, but Harold Wilson's PMQs after he announced his resignation in 1976 were great fun. In between some vicious attacks on his own party, he took the opportunity to 'reveal' that Jeremy Thorpe was being smeared by South Africa.

Didn't get a standing ovation, though.

 

[treelover]

It depends on what economic position you have, etc, , i doubt if most pensioners and disabled people on benefits would agree with you, and thats many millions of people.

 

[Lock&Light]

I think it serves to illustrate how egotistical and narcissistic the man is.

Surely you could say that about any PM to an extent.

No, Blair is an exception.

You obviously don't remember Anthony Eden.

The only comparison to be made between Eden ...................and strangers. Eden went pretty quietly.

You used the words egotistical and narcisstic, so I mentioned Eden.

 

[nino_savatte]

Sadly not broadcast, but Harold Wilson's PMQs after he announced his resignation in 1976 were great fun. In between some vicious attacks on his own party, he took the opportunity to 'reveal' that Jeremy Thorpe was being smeared by South Africa.

Didn't get a standing ovation, though.

Aye and Wilson didn't announce his resignation and then spend a month or two on some world tour. Blair didn't want to leave office and he clung on for as long as he was able to.

 

[nino_savatte]

You used the words egotistical and narcisstic, so I mentioned Eden.

It's a cheap point pedantically made, so no surprise there. Eden was not as narcissistic as Blair nor was he as egotistical. Furthermore Eden left office without flouncing or going on some massive self-promotional world tour.

 

[treelover]

Keep records do you, Nino, like Ern did?

The rest of your post has been noted.

 

[nino_savatte]

Keep records do you, Nino, like Ern did?

Piss off.

 

[Das Uberdog]

Just imagine if Major had won another four or five years.

Don't imagine Major could have gotten away with half as much of the privatisation in the public services and attacks upon civ. lib as Blair. We'd probably be in a much stronger position.

Even still, it's not like it's useful to speculate. It's not like the election was close fought; Major got hammered.

 

[Lock&Light]

Eden was not as narcissistic as Blair nor was he as egotistical.

You obviously don't remember Anthony Eden.

 

[nino_savatte]

You obviously don't remember Anthony Eden.

You obviously have a problem with being contradicted. You can say it as many times as you like but the comparisons between Eden and Blair are few - particularly with regards to narcissism. Did Eden make a grandstanding finish when he resigned? No, he did not.

 

[Lock&Light]

You obviously have a problem with being contradicted. You can say it as many times as you like but the comparisons between Eden and Blair are few - particularly with regards to narcissism. Did Eden make a grandstanding finish when he resigned? No, he did not.

Would have been a bit difficult, nino, with only newspaper correspondents around to watch him. He found his own ways of grandstanding.

Your first sentence, by the way, coming from you, nino, made me actually laugh outloud.

 

[nino_savatte]

Would have been a bit difficult, nino, with only newspaper correspondents around to watch him. He found his own ways of grandstanding.

Your first sentence, by the way, coming from you, nino, made me actually laugh outloud.

Eden did not give some grandstanding performance before leaving office. You obviously didn't pay attention to what I said in a previous post (and you did this to make a cheap point and to snipe) when I said that the BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, noted that Blair had "broken with tradition" by appearing at a final PMQT...which part of that sentence did you not understand?

The real reason for your posts is to make cheap points and nothing else.

Your first sentence, by the way, coming from you, nino, made me actually laugh outloud.

All of your posts make me want to vomit: they are either content free or full of snide remarks.

You continue to make a nuisance of yourself.

 

[Lock&Light]

when I said that the BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, noted that Blair had "broken with tradition" by appearing at a final PMQT...which part of that sentence did you not understand?

The only break with tradition was the standing ovation at the end, and I believe that to have been spontaneous.

 

[cockneyrebel]

Stupid boy!

Why is he stupid for describing Blair as a war criminal? He is a war criminal. And has also fucked over the working class from the day he got into office.

And people are right about the backslapping crap in Parliament, which is ultimately because there is not really a bit of difference between the individuals on both sides of the house, with a handful of exceptions.

To be honest though I don't feel anything. One capitalist anti-working class bastard replacing another.

Also anymore on what Galloway said, I can't believe he was praising Brown given what he's said in the past. Having said that I agree that a media career beckons for him.

 

[cockneyrebel]

As for Blair being a "special envoy", I'm sure he'll do a great job in standing up for Israeli and US/UK interests. Is anyone on here really naive enough to think that the US/UK/Israel actually want peace and a Palestinian state?

Blair going to the middle east to get peace after he's just resided over 500,000 Iraqis getting butchered, you couldn't get any more like 1984.

 

[nino_savatte]

The only break with tradition was the standing ovation at the end, and I believe that to have been spontaneous.

No it wasn't, Eden didn't announce his resignation and then spend two months jetting around the world and then give a final performance for the Commons (it would have been reported in the papers and there is nothing in the archives that even suggests that he did).

 

[Lock&Light]

Why is he stupid for describing Blair as a war criminal?

If you're asking me then my answer is very simple. I didn't call the angry idiot a stupid boy because of his opinions on Blair, but for what he wrote in his posts to me.

 

[Lock&Light]

No it wasn't, Eden didn't announce his resignation and then spend two months jetting around the world and then give a final performance for the Commons (it would have been reported in the papers and there is nothing in the archives that even suggests that he did).

Eden had lost and was completely defeated. He was a very sick man throughout 1956. In those respects I suppose that Blair is exceptional being a man with a future after the premiership.

 

[nino_savatte]

Eden had lost and was completely defeated. He was a very sick man throughout 1956. In those respects I suppose that Blair is exceptional being a man with a future after the premiership.

Suez broke his health and he resigned: he didn't go on a world tour and he didn't spend months hanging around sticking two fingers up at his successor. When most PMs resign, they leave Number 10 within a couple of days. Blair clung on for nigh on two months.

 

[Lock&Light]

When most PMs resign, they leave Number 10 within a couple of days. Blair clung on for nigh on two months.

That's rubbish. Blair only resigned yesterday.

 

[Barking_Mad]

The only break with tradition was the standing ovation at the end, and I believe that to have been spontaneous.

Well you'd be wrong, again - The Tory sops only got on their feet after Cameron gave them the go ahead.

 

[nino_savatte]

That's rubbish. Blair only resigned yesterday.

No it isn't and you obviously haven't been paying attention to the news - have you? Blair announced his resignation almost two months ago and then spent that time jetting around the world.

 

[nino_savatte]

Give it up, Schlock, you're on a hiding to nothing.

 

[Lock&Light]

Give it up, Schlock, you're on a hiding to nothing.

I should have known that your bad temper would eventually get the better of you.

You're not actually allowed to call me that, you know, nino?

Should I report your breaking of the FAQ?

 

[nino_savatte]

I should have known that your bad temper would eventually get the better of you.

You're not actually allowed to call me that, you know, nino?

Should I report your breaking of the FAQ?

Your point for coming along here was to make cheap points and snide remarks - as you have done here. You had no intention of contributing and your posts on this thread are more than ample proof of this.

I should report you for continuing to follow me around and picking fights (not just with me but with other posters). That's against the FAQ's too. Btw, I'll call you anything I like, you're a nuisance.

Now piss off.

 

[Lock&Light]

Your point for coming along here was to make cheap points and snide remarks - as you have done here. You had no intention of contributing and your posts on this thread are more than ample proof of this.

I should report you for continuing to follow me around and picking fights (not just with me but with other posters). That's against the FAQ's too. Btw, I'll call you anything I like, you're a nuisance.

Now piss off.

In fact, nino, and even you should have been able to read it, I came onto this thread to say that I found Blair's Commons farewell to be "strangely emotional". So your paranoid theories don't seem to hold much water. As usual.

 

[Belushi]

Well you'd be wrong, again - The Tory sops only got on their feet after Cameron gave them the go ahead.

Innit, you could see Cameron clearly gesturing to his backbenchers to get to their feet.

 

[nino_savatte]

In fact, nino, and even you should have been able to read it, I came onto this thread to say that I found Blair's Commons farewell to be "strangely emotional". So your paranoid theories don't seem to hold much water. As usual.

Piss off. You came to this thread for no other reason than to make a nuisance of yourself - as you do on other threads. Tell someone who will believe you.