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Anyone been to Moscow/St Petersburg??

I went to Moscow and St Petersburg over 20 years ago, when St Petersburg was called Leningrad.

I can recommend the Winter Palace and the Metro was (is?) amazing.
 
Piter is impersonal too.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder damn you!

Moscow is a city of extremes. 11 million people crammed into one big, dirty, rotting metropolis where you can get and eat the best Sharma and watch drunks throw bottles into the carriages of metro trains, and have stray dogs keeping you awake by barking all night outside your block of flats. Moscow metro is better for it's palace stations than Piter, although Piter's is more cleaner and bright. And, in Piter you go onto these platforms where the trains are obscured from view by walls, the platform and track seperated, and when the train arrives it's doors align exactly with doors in the wall. AMAZING!
 
It isn't the best throughout the whole city. The vendors around the northern area, near the Botanical gardens, and near VDNKh (you know, where all those music, video and mobile phone shops are). These are good. Some of the kiosks are shaped and painted like big matryoshka dolls. And as ever, there is a Vulcan gambling arcade. :rolleyes:
 
He is involved with them yes. He's the bloke that has a penchant for demolishing old historic buildings and replacing them with new crap shopping centres. He is mates with that sculptor Zurab Tsereteli who put up that awful statue of Peter the Great at the helm of a boat riding on some geyzer like rush of water. It is positively grotesque, fucking awful. He keeps getting contracts to make and place his "art" throughout Moscow, no doubt his connections with the mayor.
 
I'm flying to Moscow on Thursday night. Will be my second visit over there. Absolutly loved it the first time. I don't think I've ever met such nice people. Everyone I met made me feel so welcome and they are always smiling! :D

Off to a place called Perm City in Sibera on Friday then back into Moscow on Saturday. Unfortunately have to come home on Sunday, would loved to have stayed in Sibera a bit longer but need to get back into Moscow for a couple of gigs on the Saturday night.

Chris
 
If you make an effort to speak to them then you might be surprised. Living in poverty does give quite a lot of people good reason to be sad. :rolleyes: Have always fancied going to Ekaterinburg.
 
Ryazan said:
If you make an effort to speak to them then you might be surprised. Living in poverty does give quite a lot of people good reason to be sad. :rolleyes: Have always fancied going to Ekaterinburg.

:confused:
 
Ferret

Ekaterinburg, it is the administrative centre of the region of Western Siberia which Perm is a part of.
 
Ryazan said:
Ekaterinburg, it is the administrative centre of the region of Western Siberia which Perm is a part of.

Ah right. :) Thanks Ryazan :cool:

I hope I get to see some of the City. I have a feeling I won't though if my last trip is anything to go by.

Does anyone know how long the flight is from Moscow to Perm City? I'm booked on the 10am flight so hopefully that will get me there with hopefully a few spare hours to spend exploring.
 
Ryazan said:
:cool: I am going back to Moscow in Febuary, but fingers crossed, I will head to Kazan in the summer.


the people in ekat were v nice when i was there :) the massive church they've built on the site the romanovs were killed is absolutely mind-boggling.
'the church on the blood' i think it's called.


edit: here ya go, here's a pic -

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Oh, There is a church "on the spilt blood" in St Petersburg too, to remember the death of Alexander II (offed by the likes of Vera Figner :cool: ) The Romanovs were shot in Ekaterinburg yes, but I think Yeltsin had the house they were kept in and executed demolished in the 70's or 80's. Orthodox churches are :cool:
 
Ferret said:
Ah right. :) Thanks Ryazan :cool:

I hope I get to see some of the City. I have a feeling I won't though if my last trip is anything to go by.

Does anyone know how long the flight is from Moscow to Perm City? I'm booked on the 10am flight so hopefully that will get me there with hopefully a few spare hours to spend exploring.

I don't know how long it is, but what are you talking about in terms of the city? Perm, or Moscow?
 
Sorry Ryazan, not making myself very clear.

I was talking about Perm. I've been doing some research on the place but can't find too much information, from what I have found though it does look like a great place and somewhere very different compared to Moscow.

I visted Moscow a couple of months ago and loved the place but would like to see a bit more of Russia as I'm sure there's so much great places to see.
 
I don't know a great deal about Perm, but Russia from my experience is very different beyond the two cities Piter and Moscow. Provincial Russia is another world, and am jealous that you are heading to the Urals. I have only been to European Russia taking in Moscow, Piter aswell as Ryazan and Michurinsk. Should be going to Tatarstan and Kazan in the summer, which will be really good.

The poverty is pretty grim in the provinces. Near Ryazan some of my girlfriend's relatives live in a village near the city and it doesn't have decent running water. But that said they have a banya in their back garden and I was treated some time in there for my birthday back in 2004. I recommend a visit to one. If you are comfortable with being naked in a hot place with other men (you'll be surprised at the eyebrows that have been raised when telling others about it here in the UK), and get lightly beaten with birch branches on your neck back and legs then it is brilliant. As my host said- "Banya, it is the Russian doctor".
 
Well I'm going to try and squeeze as much as I can in the time I'm there. I'll be there with a couple of Russian guys anyway so hopefully they will be able to show me a side to the city most people don't see.

I think I'll only be in Perm for about a day so there's not too much I'll be able to see but I'm definitely give my camera a good work out while I'm there. I'll definitely post up some pics when I'm back as well! :)

BTW The Banya sounds great, definitely something worth having a go at! I'm sure there's not to many people that can say they have had that done before.
 
Ferret said:
The Banya sounds great, definitely something worth having a go at! I'm sure there's not to many people that can say they have had that done before.

It is good, but the place where I was at it was just some hodge podge wooden shed cabin type thing. I am sure in the cities there are more fancy/pretensious professional places, complete with hookers (not my cup of tea). You feel refreshed after it though. Alternate between extreme sweating with birch treatment and a cold shower two maybe three times- felt so good on that day!
 
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