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Any thoughts on Stoke Newington or Bethnal green areas?

block said:
Hello everyone!

I'm moving to London in a couple of weeks and trying to decide on a place to live, have been told Stoke Newington is nice and also Bethnal green...

Anyone agree/disagree?

maybe bethnal green ;)
 
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chieftain said:
FACT: it has very high crime and antisocial behaviour records: FACT

so you'll have no worries about providing those figures, you seem very keen on on them I presume you have them to hand....

comparative for other london boroughs would be handy and for the area you currently reside in.

cheers.
 
chieftain said:
ditto your arrogance, pettiness and self delluision

no chief. I just don't take kindly to people that slag Hackney off from afar. The Hackney you describe is not the one I know. Therefore I'm asking you to explain what you mean.....
 
chegrimandi said:
no chief. I just don't take kindly to people that slag Hackney off from afar. The Hackney you describe is not the one I know. Therefore I'm asking you to explain what you mean.....

I havent slagged it off only offered my opinion on it from my experiences of it and stated a fact about high crime

Ive explained my opinions clearly to you in my posts...try reading them again when you come get down from your high chair
 
chieftain said:
Hackney central and Dalston which is where I was talking about is E8

i thought the argument was about stokie...

me putting the clapton post code was pure mischief :o
 
chegrimandi said:
no. You provide the figures.

and for your current local area. so we can do a comparison

Cheers.

Yawn....... in a pantomine style: "NO YOU DO IT" it was your idea which will prove my after all
 
chieftain said:
Hackney central and Dalston which is where I was talking about is E8
none of those places have anything to do with the question posted at the top of the thread though, do they?
 
chieftain said:
Yawn....... in a pantomine style: "NO YOU DO IT" it was your idea which will prove my after all

no fucko you said:

'FACT: it has very high crime and antisocial behaviour records: FACT'

as it is FACT, can you provide the FACTS on which you are basing your argument. Please. It would kind of help you prove your point a little bit.

or are you just being a lame fucking twat thats legged it from the inner city but like to slag off the area you used to live in from afar and stick the boot in because it suits your disposition and somehow makes you feel better about the suburban shit hole you've bought in to....

you decide chief.

:)
 
tomas said:
none of those places have anything to do with the question posted at the top of the thread though, do they?

no but what I was posting with Cheggers descended from pot bellied pigs post about Dalston at night etc etc blah blah
 
chegrimandi said:
no fucko you said:
Defensive and abusive cheegers, out come the toys from the pram

chegrimandi said:
'FACT: it has very high crime and antisocial behaviour records: FACT'

as it is FACT, can you provide the FACTS on which you are basing your argument. Please. It would kind of help you prove your point a little bit.

I've provided you with a source, please do have a look if you need proof of my facts from www.upmystreet.co.uk who get there figures from the Home Office

Two examples of Crime statistics per 1,000 of the population within the local authority area.

E8/N16
Burglary dwelling offences: 13 | National average: 6.4
Theft of a motor vehicle offences: 9 | National Average: 4.5

SG6
Burglary dwelling offences: 5 | National average: 6.4
Theft of a motor vehicle offences: 2 | National Average: 4.5


chegrimandi said:
or are you just being a lame fucking twat thats legged it from the inner city but like to slag off the area you used to live in from afar and stick the boot in because it suits your disposition and somehow makes you feel better about the suburban shit hole you've bought in to....

er no not at all I havent legged it anywhere, I made a choice to leave Hackney just like you did to live in hackney. My carefully considered choice is one that benefits my young family and myself.

Are you just being a lame defensive fucking twat thats choosen to move into the inner city and become blinded to its faults until you choose to move out again at some point. Remind me how exactly do you contribute to Hackney as the place you're so concerned about defending from my opinion? You know the opinion I formed whislt I lived in Hackney. My opinion is strictly my own, its not to make me feel better of anything of the sort, if you dont like it please feel free to ignore me and my ill written postings.

you decide.
 
chieftain said:
Defensive and abusive cheegers, out come the toys from the pram



I've provided you with a source, please do have a look if you need proof of my facts from www.upmystreet.co.uk who get there figures from the Home Office

Two examples of Crime statistics per 1,000 of the population within the local authority area.

E8/N16
Burglary dwelling offences: 13 | National average: 6.4
Theft of a motor vehicle offences: 9 | National Average: 4.5

SG6
Burglary dwelling offences: 5 | National average: 6.4
Theft of a motor vehicle offences: 2 | National Average: 4.5




er no not at all I havent legged it anywhere, I made a choice to leave Hackney just like you did to live in hackney. My carefully considered choice is one that benefits my young family and myself.

Are you just being a lame defensive fucking twat thats choosen to move into the inner city and become blinded to its faults until you choose to move out again at some point. Remind me how exactly do you contribute to Hackney as the place you're so concerned about defending from my opinion? You know the opinion I formed whislt I lived in Hackney. My opinion is strictly my own, its not to make me feel better of anything of the sort, if you dont like it please feel free to ignore me and my ill written postings.

you decide.

no um. no toys from any pram.

Rather than link to a website that just wants to sell stuff can you please link to where your crime stats are reported - just the FACTS please - maybe the Home Office. Its you thats making the case, therefore YOU provide the evidence......not from a commercial site. Just the facts.
 
chegrimandi said:
no um. no toys from any pram.

Rather than link to a website that just wants to sell stuff can you please link to where your crime stats are reported - just the FACTS please - maybe the Home Office. Its you thats making the case, therefore YOU provide the evidence......not from a commercial site. Just the facts.

As I stated in my previous post the link I sent gets its stats direct from the Home office, Im happy with it as my source. see where the figure come from here: http://www.upmystreet.com/local/police-crime/learn-more/l/E8.html

If you need other proof then go find it yourself and prove me wrong... as far as I'm concerned the burden of the task now lies with you if you wish to be so utterly padantic in your panic.
 
chegrimandi said:
no um. no toys from any pram.

Rather than link to a website that just wants to sell stuff can you please link to where your crime stats are reported - just the FACTS please - maybe the Home Office. Its you thats making the case, therefore YOU provide the evidence......not from a commercial site. Just the facts.

He did provide the facts.

You come across as a pedantic, arrogant, ignorant, deluded, self-important, argumentitive tosser. Just my opinion, of course.
 
java1200 said:
He did provide the facts.

You come across as a pedantic, arrogant, ignorant, deluded, self-important, argumentitive tosser. Just my opinion, of course.

...and your thoughts on stoke newington/hackney as a place to live are.....?
 
I think it's an okay area to live in but I agree with Chieftain, in that I wouldn't want to bring my family up there. But then I wouldn't want to bring a family up anywhere in London, even in snooty places like Kensington & Chelsea.

You can't dispute that Hackney has high levels of crime. Although I don't know how relevant that is as I live in Westminster, which has quite high crime levels, but I've never had any bother.
 
marty21 said:
look forward to it :)

I'd be up for drinkies in Finsbury Park too 'cos i've been living round there for years now...

I don't often drink in the pubs near the station though. I prefer the pubs up/off Stroud Green Road, like the Faltering Fullback :)
 
Stoke Newington is great. You have SN Church Street, which is very pretty and full of great restaurants (Rasa, the Blue Legume, etc.), and you have Clissold Park which, even though small, feels like you're in some kind of Jane Austen country village. Parts of SN are close to Manor House tube. At any rate, bus service to the City and the West End is great, and it's not too far from the East End, Brick Lane, etc. You also have a good indie movie theater in Dalson, which is nearby. You're close to some of the best Turkish/Kurdish food in the world (up in Harringay and also check out Testi on SN High Street: they serve sheep balls, which are definitely worth a try). Check out N16mag.com.


block said:
Hello everyone!

I'm moving to London in a couple of weeks and trying to decide on a place to live, have been told Stoke Newington is nice and also Bethnal green...

Anyone agree/disagree?
 
I've lived in Stokie for 4 years and been around Dalston and Hackney at all times of the day. I've seen a few disturbing fracas and heard about a lot more, but compared to the little northern town where I grew up and Manchester, I'd say it's pretty safe. My best mate has two small kids and he loves the area. Mind you, he is a psychiatrist. My attitude is that living in inner city London you expect a higher level of crime because big cities do tend to attract nutters. But that's a small price to pay for all the vibrancy and multi-cultural beauty of the area. I do realise some people get more frightened as they get older, especially if they have small kids, it depends how much you think you can protect children from the real world.
Oh, and Cheggers is an argumentative twat, but I generally agree with him about Hackney. ;) :p
 
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