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Any other dead enders?

When I got a degree I ended up on the dole for year, then went to a factory, and after that a supermarket. I wasn't the only one with a degree in a dogsbody position, but I left a couple of years ago to concentrate on academic stuff. But there does remain a graduate bakery bod whose been there for 7 or 8 years now. I wonder if she'll ever move on.
 
xenon_2 said:
So has everyone on U75 got a "career?"

Just seems most threads are about peple trying to manage, change career etc etc. But what of yee peple working in dead end bullshit jobs with no prospects. Surely I'm not the only one :)

There must be some other graduates out there who find themselves working as an office monkey 9 to 5. The BT call centre as was, in Bristol here, had a large number of degree holding workers.

Am I the only one who feels a little alienated when hearing peple talking about education, university. The cliche. Study hard, go to uni, so you can get a good job.

I'll waiger that a few of the unemployed ones here are graduates and educated peple as well.

Sorry not sure what point of thread is. Just wanted to see who else is riding the train to sacksvil.
Me too. I know what i like doing and what I'm good at and what I might enjoy trying but I have no idea where to go to get help, support or whatever. Not something i've had much of in life - not trying to complain, life turns out as it does.
 
xenon_2 said:
Snoogles. Many people I graduated with are doing similar jobs. Let me be clear. I'm not knocking those jobs and don't look down on peopel that do that sort of work. It just makes me wonder why university, or indeed, education as in pass XYZ is so held up as a worhty persuit. . It just seems to be a big waste of time if you're just gonna end up doing the same shit you could have done if you left school at 16. DOn't get me wrong, I'm not anti learning. I'm talking about the gaining of achademic qualifications though.

Unless you're studying something vocational, what's the point. I mean you can still learn, read books in your own time if you wish. And you won't have the debt to contend with.

Actually, I totally agree with this. I think the whole degree thing is about taking a risk though. Even though the chances of getting a good job as a graduate aren't that great, they're usually better than the chances you'd have if you left with GCSEs. Some jobs (often the ones people aspire to, like being a doctor or a barrister) definitely require a degree, so people with those sort of aspirations will invest in their education in the hopes that they will be among the ones that land jobs like this some day. Then, of course, the risk doesn't pay off for most of them, and it's back to square one (plus debt).

It does vary by subject though - studying philosophy, history or literature (for example) won't qualify you to do anything practical. Studying engineering or medicine will. The likelihood of landing well-paid, gainful employment with the latter type of degree is much higher.

I think graduates can help themselves to some extent by taking practically-oriented degree courses, doing their best to get into a university with a good reputation and being prepared to move to an area which actually has decent jobs on offer (unlike, say, Cornwall or Kerry). Studying medieval history at a bog standard former poly and refusing to move out of your economically blighted home town won't help. If your grades aren't good enough to get you into a decent uni then chances are it may not be worth your while doing a degree. It's still a lottery at the end of the day though.
 
I stopped going into school after I took my AS Levels a few months ago.

Trying to get a job, not trying very hard, but I'm slowly picking up momentum and going from applying to one job a month to applying to one a week ;)

But yeah, I ended up getting CDD in my AS's. Not going back to school, because I don't like it, and I'm not going to do any vocational training yet because until I know 100% what I want to be doing, I'm not wasting a year or two of my life working for a very limited-oppurtunities qualification.

So yeah I'll inevitably faff around for a few years in bands, trying to life out the rock'n'roll lifestyle while I still have the looks and energy, then I'm thinking I'll find someway to wangle my way into Architectural Technicianship. That job sounds a bit badass, but as I say, rock'n'rolling is more important to me at the moment, and the Architecture idea is still a bit fresh and could be considered 'impulse', a concept that has ruled me for 17 years and could quite possibly be my downfall.

edit: if anyone cares, I'm one of these 'got the brains, can't be arsed' cases; I'm not stupid. I just had a penchant for coming into school this year after allnight parties with a hangover.
 
I'm an effing looser tbh, i hate work, i hate college, dont seem to be able to bond with people anymore. Yes im a loser, but the alternatives arnt any better in my eyes. So i might as well do the option with least effort.
 
Mellow-world said:
I'm an effing looser tbh, i hate work, i hate college, dont seem to be able to bond with people anymore. Yes im a loser, but the alternatives arnt any better in my eyes. So i might as well do the option with least effort.
I hear that!
 
Mellow-world said:
I'm an effing looser tbh, i hate work, i hate college, dont seem to be able to bond with people anymore. Yes im a loser, but the alternatives arnt any better in my eyes. So i might as well do the option with least effort.

But that, in the end, is our loss aswell :(
 
Mellow-world.
I get what you're saying. Currently lack of any specific direction has poisoned my interaction with peple a bit. here's the sort of job where you can't really talk to anyone and don't meet anybody new.

Has anyone else just ground to a holt, half on purpose to get the sack?

I agree with the not measuring yourself soley by career but a steady job is important to me for some stability. The thing is I dont' want to leave this city as I have been fortunate enough to get a social housing flat. My thinking is if I get fired, I can study and look for voluntary work for more experiences. I've never been sacked. Just wonder how detromental or not. Money issues aside.

heh.

Maybe people should swap jobs for a little while. There could be like an employment exchange scheme. Like an agency but you're perminantly employed but work in a couple of different places.

Anyway good morning fellow drones.
:)
 
xenon_2 said:
Mellow-world.
I get what you're saying. Currently lack of any specific direction has poisoned my interaction with peple a bit. here's the sort of job where you can't really talk to anyone and don't meet anybody new.

Has anyone else just ground to a holt, half on purpose to get the sack?

I agree with the not measuring yourself soley by career but a steady job is important to me for some stability. The thing is I dont' want to leave this city as I have been fortunate enough to get a social housing flat. My thinking is if I get fired, I can study and look for voluntary work for more experiences. I've never been sacked. Just wonder how detromental or not. Money issues aside.

heh.

Maybe people should swap jobs for a little while. There could be like an employment exchange scheme. Like an agency but you're perminantly employed but work in a couple of different places.

Anyway good morning fellow drones.
:)
I'm just waiting for someone to offer me the red pill.

There's got to be more to life than working for a pittance - just to keep you able to work for a pittance.

How can that be positive for anyone or anything?
 
Don't let the bastards grind you down, as they say.

Maybe it's just all a case of perspectives. They're are obviously peple far worse off than I in this country. But then again, it's not about the money, particularly. It's about the relentless treadmill of the "daily grind".

Sadly i agree with you. i'm applying for other work, but it seems a case of which call centre do i want to enslave myself in.

At least I have my hobbies..

damn it. i've missed the sandwhich lady.
 
xenon_2 said:
Don't let the bastards grind you down, as they say.

Maybe it's just all a case of perspectives. They're are obviously peple far worse off than I in this country. But then again, it's not about the money, particularly. It's about the relentless treadmill of the "daily grind".

Sadly i agree with you. i'm applying for other work, but it seems a case of which call centre do i want to enslave myself in.

At least I have my hobbies..

damn it. i've missed the sandwhich lady.
Call centres is all there is these days, from what i can see (locally). Ugh. Is it even a career? Who would want such a career?
 
:D
Certainly not a career unless you want to become a supervisor. Which is just admitting you're going to stay in the same shit swamp but float a little higher.
 
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