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Yup, lots bought houses. It's not so unlikely, when you consider what the prices were like then.
I'll take your 'Polish bus drivers' comment at face value and change my statement to 'if there is a recruitment problem in bus driving, then it is not as difficult to train and recruit new bus drivers, and retain them in those jobs.' You can't deny that the entry criteria and the training times are rather different to those in key worker jobs.
Engineers - years of training, hard to recruit, but pretty well paid, and, here's the crux, not necessarily employed in the high-cost areas.
You might as well ask 'how will the pensions get paid out without the merchant bankers juggling the funds?' and then claim that they are also key workers and entitled to key worker grants.
Or the salespeople at Pret: they sell food that nurses and the like depend on, what with not having time to to make their own lunches. Ergo, they are also key workers.
I'd have no beef whatsoever with bus drivers specifically being included as keyworkers, anyway, especially if there were actually a chance of them benefitting from it. What I have an issue with is the idea that the jobs are comparable in any way. I reckon there is some stress involved in driving a bus in London - dodgy roads, dodgy customers - but it's not nearly as much as the stress in the other jobs you named, where the pay scale is not much different and the training is much more expensive, and the workers get the hassles that bus drivers have plus plenty of other grief.
I have worked in the private sector without a decent pension. For years. If you want stressful, try working as a nurse or a teacher. The private sector jobs that are as stressful as that tend to be an awful lot better paid.
If you genuinely think that being a bus driver is as difficult, as stressful, and as difficult for the employers in term of recruitment and retention, as being a nurse or a teacher, then we're starting from viewpoints too far apart to be worth bothering with. Besides, I have to go back to marking the books from my year 7s. I've worked (counts) 43 hours so far since Monday (not counting any breaks), so I don't have the time for this nonsense.
'Bus driving as important and stressful as teaching.' That does make me laugh.
I'll take your 'Polish bus drivers' comment at face value and change my statement to 'if there is a recruitment problem in bus driving, then it is not as difficult to train and recruit new bus drivers, and retain them in those jobs.' You can't deny that the entry criteria and the training times are rather different to those in key worker jobs.
Engineers - years of training, hard to recruit, but pretty well paid, and, here's the crux, not necessarily employed in the high-cost areas.
You might as well ask 'how will the pensions get paid out without the merchant bankers juggling the funds?' and then claim that they are also key workers and entitled to key worker grants.
Or the salespeople at Pret: they sell food that nurses and the like depend on, what with not having time to to make their own lunches. Ergo, they are also key workers.
I'd have no beef whatsoever with bus drivers specifically being included as keyworkers, anyway, especially if there were actually a chance of them benefitting from it. What I have an issue with is the idea that the jobs are comparable in any way. I reckon there is some stress involved in driving a bus in London - dodgy roads, dodgy customers - but it's not nearly as much as the stress in the other jobs you named, where the pay scale is not much different and the training is much more expensive, and the workers get the hassles that bus drivers have plus plenty of other grief.
I have worked in the private sector without a decent pension. For years. If you want stressful, try working as a nurse or a teacher. The private sector jobs that are as stressful as that tend to be an awful lot better paid.
If you genuinely think that being a bus driver is as difficult, as stressful, and as difficult for the employers in term of recruitment and retention, as being a nurse or a teacher, then we're starting from viewpoints too far apart to be worth bothering with. Besides, I have to go back to marking the books from my year 7s. I've worked (counts) 43 hours so far since Monday (not counting any breaks), so I don't have the time for this nonsense.
'Bus driving as important and stressful as teaching.' That does make me laugh.
