Any experts on parking laws around?

Discussion in 'transport' started by Bahnhof Strasse, Aug 13, 2018.

  1. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    Tell us how you’ve been fined then :cool:
  2. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    Is this a council or private ticket?

    If it is council, then the pepipoo forum is your best bet. Sign up with something other than a Hotmail add and read the intro posts to see that they get all the info needed to help you.

    For private tickets, the parking tickets subforum on MSE has a "Newbies Read This First" sticky that walks you through the whole POPLA process - you don't need to sign up to view it. DO NOT, follow the advice in the "offical" MSE article as it is worse than useless and will hand your head on a plate to any ppc that might take you to court.

    If it is an IAS ticket, then start ignoring now as they are simply a kangaroo court that very rarely follows through with anything more than scary letters.
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  3. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

    Ticket or lifted? :facepalm:
    Audi drivers :facepalm:
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  4. Not been fined :)
  5. Or lifted.
  6. It's not about tickets, as such.

    A local common has a patch of dirt which is the car park, it's rutted and often full of deep puddles. Surrey County Council has just added a pay and display machine, £1.30 an hour. The approach roads now feature double yellows and there are signs all around the car park reminding you to pay up.

    I was wondering if a council pay and display car park needed to have marked bays and/or a dedicated area for disabled parking?

    This is the car park:
  7. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    Other types of traffic/parking offences, FPNs and the like are also handled in the various forms on Pepipoo.

    For anything legal/legit, they are the place to go.
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  8. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

    so they've just stuck a box next to a patch of earth and started demanding money? Someone is taking the rise imo
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  10. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    There should be a local policy on parking and IIRC, smaller car parks don't always need fully marked out/disabled bat's etc, I have a vague memory that @20 cars was the cut off point.

    The TRO covering that car park should spell it outout fully and they should be able to be viewed online or on application and if they are charging/ticketing without one, then that is very naughty indeed.
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  11. On Surrey CC's website they state that they don't envisage the revenue collected being greater than the cost of providing the service (patch of dirt and puddles) and also that by charging they are not, in their view, restricting access to the common. Seems wide open for legal action. In the meantime I have today cancelled by membership of Surrey Wildlife Trust who manage the common, as I can't afford to pay them and the council...
    Badgers likes this.
  12. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    Time to start asking to see the paper trail is all in order then!
  13. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    Or stop whinging and just pay the bloody parking fees.
  14. mrs quoad

    mrs quoad Well-Known Member

    Or snare a duck every time you go, and have it for dinner. That way, you’re at least getting something from your duck-related subscription :thumbs:

    Wildfowl trust gets money, you get dinner, everyone’s happy except the ducks.
  15. See, thing is, I can afford to. But the countryside should be open to all, not just those with money. For many people these charges mean the difference between visiting the countryside and not doing so.
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  16. mrs quoad

    mrs quoad Well-Known Member

    Transactional post austerity wildfowl trust advertising suggestion.

  17. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

    Catch up with last nights countryfile. Councils funding is being cut by central government, so council have to make cuts. The cuts are hitting country parks hard. Do they charge for parking, give the park to a charity or private body so as they can look after it or what?
  18. A charity, Surrey Wildlife Trust (wild Life, not Fowl mrs quoad ) already does manage Rodborough Common. SCC is just revenue raising to fill the hole in their overall budget, and that is illegal, so they have come up with a load of old fanny to pretend that they are not doing what they are doing.

    What SCC could do is sell off their HQ and move in to a much cheaper one, one that is actually in Surrey, for a start.
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  19. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?


    Bahnhof Strasse should go to the local paper. Then someone can start a thread about the article :D
  20. mrs quoad

    mrs quoad Well-Known Member

    It is certainly tragic that, of all areas, this lot's constituents get hit by the swingeing effects of austerity.

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  21. Mrs D

    Mrs D . Banned

    Growing up, our family didn’t have a car because we couldn’t afford it. Every weekend dad would take us to the countryside, often using buses.

    The idea that people should be entitled to park their car on common land nature reserves for free is pretty backward.

    I see Rodborough Common is a 20 minute bus journey from Godalming. I see no reason why parking should cost less than the bus fare.
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  22. The cost of car ownership has come down a fair bit since the 70's though, far more people have cars these days. Plus, have a guess how many buses run from Godalming to Milford on a Sunday and what time the last one returns.
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  23. I'm going to point at the yellow lines and look :(
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  25. Mrs D

    Mrs D . Banned

    Perhaps Audi drivers should pay double rates to subsidise free parking for poor people.
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  26. I'd be happy to, but that's not offered either.
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  27. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    Without getting all Freeman of the Land, it might be worth digging into who actually owns the common land upon which the car park is situated - it might be managed by various people, including the county council, but that doesn't mean they own it, or that the bylaws that cover the common land allow them to either charge for parking or to build parking meters, even when they've given themselves planning permission.

    One is reminded of the £5 per day car park next to Bristol Zoo. Run by a bloke in a hi-viz jacket for 30 years - the zoo thought he worked for the council, the council thought he worked for the zoo. He just stopped turning up one day - car park was locked and chaos ensued - allegedly he's living in Northern Cyprus in a massive villa...
  28. Rodborough Common is owned by Surrey County Council.

    They go on with this bit of dodgyness..

  29. mrs quoad

    mrs quoad Well-Known Member


    So, tbf, bang on FoTLer material there :cool:

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