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Anton du Beke in racist outburst

Brucie's come out in support of Anton - apparently we need to just get a sense of humour about these things, the americans used to call us limeys etc etc
 
Anton Vowel is, as ever, bang on the money here.

Anton Vowel said:
What amuses me is that when these subjects come up you encounter a level of hostility from people who go all out to defend this kind of unpleasantness as 'banter', even going so far as to claim that the words aren't really offensive. Dealing with these fuckwits is like learning chess openings; you can predict what they're going to say and you just have to learn the way around their stupidity. It's like the arguments you have to painfully trundle through when some berk is determined to call the BNP 'left-wing' - it's annoying, but you have to go through it step by step in crayon in order to make your point.
 
Brucie's come out in support of Anton - apparently we need to just get a sense of humour about these things, the americans used to call us limeys etc etc
Yes, well, Fivesythe was going down the line of a group of contestants at the end of a show once, shaking their hands, until he came to the one black chap there, whom he high-fived extravagantly. The chap did his best to play along but looked a tad embarrassed.

The BBC should have given him strict instructions to keep his gob shut about this. He'll end up getting himself fired alongside the racist twat.
 
I have two colleagues from Pakistan and the very idea of calling either of them a 'paki' as a bit of a joke is completely absurd. I'd be sacked on the spot, and rightly so, but more importantly they would probably be really distressed and disappointed to hear that from a close colleague. Why this du Beke character hasn't been sacked is a mystery.
 
I have two colleagues from Pakistan and the very idea of calling either of them a 'paki' as a bit of a joke is completely absurd. I'd be sacked on the spot, and rightly so, but more importantly they would probably be really distressed and disappointed to hear that from a close colleague. Why this du Beke character hasn't been sacked is a mystery.

Possibly because he didn't actually call a close colleague a 'paki'.

We should be careful, if we make too much of a fuss about this then Brucie might not disgrace himself properly thus removing himself from our screens. :hmm:
 
Can anyone take me through the offence because I'm out the loop again?

Best I understand so far is he said she looked like a Paki after she had a spray tan. I presume the offence is having 'paki' in his vocabulary?
 
Everyone has 'paki' in their vocab you simple minded goon; it's more that most people without an ounce of good sense know the term's history and don't use it refer to colleagues as a bit of a lark

I could take the odd gobshite aberration, but DuBeke seems to come out with boneheaded phrases a little too often. And his mealy mouthed apology was less convincing than Feltz's - he claims he apparently didn't mean it as a racial insult which just seems impossible to square.

He's a silly cock. But worse than that he's a shit tv presenter who slimes across the screen.
 
Best I understand so far is he said she looked like a Paki after she had a spray tan. I presume the offence is having 'paki' in his vocabulary?

Pretty much (at least in terms of the subset that he uses). Plus he used it in reference to someone (even if it was by comparison). Plus the media loves a 'race row'.
 
The offensive logic behind saying that is that it leads to the conclusion that there does actually exist a group of people who it's ok to call pakis and who this woman resembles. It's not that complicated.
 
Can anyone take me through the offence because I'm out the loop again?

Best I understand so far is he said she looked like a Paki after she had a spray tan. I presume the offence is having 'paki' in his vocabulary?

are you really that fucking stupid, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

If you don't think there is an issue with use of the word 'paki' in any context, then I pity you. If you think there is nothing wrong with using it towards someone of indian/moroccan descent - who has, almost undoubtedly, been called a 'paki' many times in her life, and rarely in 'jest' - then you are just bloody stupid.

Du beke apologised very quickly, and seemingly quite sincerely. Which might have been good enough were it not for the fact that this was apparently the second incident between him & Laila. When they first met apparently he said to her 'you're not a terrorist are you?'.

In a nutshell, he seems a quite straightfroward posh bigot, who thinks he can say anything he likes as long as he then says 'it was a joke.' Not really someone a public institution should be appointing as a spokesman (which presenters are), nor should they really be condoning them in any way, which they would if they continued to employ him.

Sad, but bigotry shouldn't be allowed to go unpaid for.
 
To give him credit, he's covering all the offensive bases. She's apparently got terrorist, sorry I mean Moroccan and Pakistani, sorry Indian, roots.

He's a sorry slimy cunt
 
i had a feeling he was posh (born in Kent - must be!), but will happilly accept he is merely a straightforward bigot.
 
The offensive logic behind saying that is that it leads to the conclusion that there does actually exist a group of people who it's ok to call pakis and who this woman resembles. It's not that complicated.
That's helpful, Butchers. It took 40 posts to get there but cheers.

It's also seems to be an issue of whether someone is racist per se, or whether someone needs a swift kick up the arse because they don't understand the line between banter and a racially-based derogatory term. Is that fair?
 
That's helpful, Butchers. It took 40 posts to get there but cheers.

It's also seems to be an issue of whether someone is racist per se, or whether someone needs a swift kick up the arse because they don't understand the line between banter and a racially-based derogatory term. Is that fair?

More the line between banter and racist banter I would have said.
 
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