Anton Vowel said:What amuses me is that when these subjects come up you encounter a level of hostility from people who go all out to defend this kind of unpleasantness as 'banter', even going so far as to claim that the words aren't really offensive. Dealing with these fuckwits is like learning chess openings; you can predict what they're going to say and you just have to learn the way around their stupidity. It's like the arguments you have to painfully trundle through when some berk is determined to call the BNP 'left-wing' - it's annoying, but you have to go through it step by step in crayon in order to make your point.
Yes, well, Fivesythe was going down the line of a group of contestants at the end of a show once, shaking their hands, until he came to the one black chap there, whom he high-fived extravagantly. The chap did his best to play along but looked a tad embarrassed.Brucie's come out in support of Anton - apparently we need to just get a sense of humour about these things, the americans used to call us limeys etc etc
I hadn't heard the context of the remark until I clicked the link in the OP just now. Stupid prat.I have two colleagues from Pakistan and the very idea of calling either of them a 'paki' as a bit of a joke is completely absurd. I'd be sacked on the spot, and rightly so, but more importantly they would probably be really distressed and disappointed to hear that from a close colleague. Why this du Beke character hasn't been sacked is a mystery.

Possibly because he didn't actually call a close colleague a 'paki'.
Nobody. If the NOTW is correct, he compared someone to a 'Paki'.Who did he call a 'paki'?
Nobody. If the NOTW is correct, he compared someone to a 'Paki'.

Best I understand so far is he said she looked like a Paki after she had a spray tan. I presume the offence is having 'paki' in his vocabulary?
Can anyone take me through the offence because I'm out the loop again?
Best I understand so far is he said she looked like a Paki after she had a spray tan. I presume the offence is having 'paki' in his vocabulary?
Can anyone take me through the offence because I'm out the loop again?
Best I understand so far is he said she looked like a Paki after she had a spray tan. I presume the offence is having 'paki' in his vocabulary?
To be fair to him, I think he's more a straightforward working-class bigot.In a nutshell, he seems a quite straightfroward posh bigot, who thinks he can say anything he likes as long as he then says 'it was a joke.'
To be fair to him, I think he's more a straightforward working-class bigot.
To be fair to him, I think he's more a straightforward working-class bigot.

Indeed.i had a feeling he was posh (born in Kent - must be!), but will happilly accept he is merely a straightforaward bigot.

Indeed.
That isn't his real name, btw.
Indeed.
That isn't his real name, btw.
That's helpful, Butchers. It took 40 posts to get there but cheers.The offensive logic behind saying that is that it leads to the conclusion that there does actually exist a group of people who it's ok to call pakis and who this woman resembles. It's not that complicated.
That's helpful, Butchers. It took 40 posts to get there but cheers.
It's also seems to be an issue of whether someone is racist per se, or whether someone needs a swift kick up the arse because they don't understand the line between banter and a racially-based derogatory term. Is that fair?
Eh? Are you serious?Oh, I see. What's all the fuss about then?