Anti-white Racism

[treelover]

Possibly these...

http://www.iwca.info/


Promotes the political and economic interests of the working class; the site includes manifesto, news, party structure, election results and the IWCA’s

not to be confused with these

http://www.iwca.org/

Does anyone know any group that is dedicated to working for the working class{what ever race}.
So far I've got a hatred for the far right and communism {swp}.Is there anyone for the working class or is it every man for himself.

 

[dennisr]

http://www.iwca.org/

now that made me giggle

also the Socialist Party: http://www.socialistparty.org.uk

 

[nino_savatte]

Possibly these...

http://www.iwca.info/


Promotes the political and economic interests of the working class; the site includes manifesto, news, party structure, election results and the IWCA’s

not to be confused with these

http://www.iwca.org/

And who are these "working class", treelover?

Or perhaps you would like me to call you a "racist" instead - eh?

 

[The Black Hand]

I got hold of IDENTITY BNP MAG APRIL.
Theres a page devoted to White trash.According to John Bean and {Eddy Butler who has been on benifits all of his life} The mass of bnp supporters now are middle class and the welfare class {people that claim benifits} are basicly just white trash.
Could I take the bnp to court for anti-white racism.

Whats the article called? WHo wrote it? And is it available online anywhere? As much as I hate them I think this is interesting - now the BNP and the IWCA have the same policies

 

[Divisive Cotton]

I got hold of IDENTITY BNP MAG APRIL.
Theres a page devoted to White trash.According to John Bean and {Eddy Butler who has been on benifits all of his life} The mass of bnp supporters now are middle class and the welfare class {people that claim benifits} are basicly just white trash.
Could I take the bnp to court for anti-white racism.

that's intersting - where is this article? I'd to read it

 

[The Black Hand]

Oi! Tell me the gossip!! I had my hand up first

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

You will have to get hold of Identity mag {april}
I've come to realise It is every man for himself.

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

Whats the article called? WHo wrote it? And is it available online anywhere? As much as I hate them I think this is interesting - now the BNP and the IWCA have the same policies

I thought the IWCA was just about helping the working class.

 

[butchersapron]

As much as I hate them I think this is interesting - now the BNP and the IWCA have the same policies

What do you mean by this attica? Are you referring to the OPs summary of the BNP article and saying that this is also the IWCA analysis, or are you saying that all (or most) of their policies are the same, not just the approach outlined in the OP?

 

[simon foster]

What do you mean by this attica? Are you referring to the OPs summary of the BNP article and saying that this is also the IWCA analysis, or are you saying that all (or most) of their policies are the same, not just the approach outlined in the OP?

Who gives a fuck, man. The dude's a comic genius.

 

[caught between.]

wow! what a lot of replies! felt like a lynch mob!

i take on board what you (plural) say,
but i still believ that that phrase can be open to abuse.

selemar: the reason i mention my ex-girl-friend is everyday we got racial abuse or comments even from our so-called friends. Boys shouting things at us at bus stop, on trains, on buses anywhere we go/went. 98% of it was from Black people directed overwhemly towards my ex-girlfriend. i would hav liked to hav recorded some of the incidents and the things said. Anyway, that's over, lets get on with talking about something mor interesting.

 

[untethered]

If "white trash" isn't a racist insult then presumably "black trash" isn't either.

Why can't we all just get along? Why?

 

[audiotech]

If "white trash" isn't a racist insult then presumably "black trash" isn't either.

Why can't we all just get along? Why?

Because we're all trash?

 

[N_igma]

Well surely it depends on context. A black person calling a white person "white trash" has different connotations than a white person calling a white person it. Same with the use of the N word in the black community.

I don't use the term at all, I just call them tramps.

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

Whats the article called? WHo wrote it? And is it available online anywhere? As much as I hate them I think this is interesting - now the BNP and the IWCA have the same policies

It was wrote by John Bean.April edition of ID.

 

[nino_savatte]

I'd be careful with this thread, durutti and his mates might get a wee bit touchy.

 

[Columbine]

No, it's not. Try learning some history.

But if you were from a white working class council estate and were called white trash, you would be offended.

If you were from a black working class council estate and were called a nigger, you would be offended.

So to take a non-racial analysis you would be offended by being insulted.

To give an example, the word 'slave' is derived from Slav etymologically, as the Romans used (white) Eastern Europeans as slaves.

It would be more offensive to call a black person a slave than a nigger (IMO).

Yet the word is derived from something that is insulting to white Eastern Europeans.

See "bog wog" or "Irish nigger" for example. The latter being used extensively in the film the 'Gangs of New york'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_of_new_york

 

[editor]

But if you were from a white working class council estate and were called white trash, you would be offended.

If you were from a black working class council estate and were called a nigger, you would be offended.

*can't be arsed with this simplistic nonsense.

Try reading some history and then you might just possibly understand the difference. Or not, as might be the case.

 

[jonH]

i hate threads about hate

 

[Columbine]

*can't be arsed with this simplistic nonsense.

Try reading some history and then you might just possibly understand the difference. Or not, as might be the case.

Simplistic or not, the point is that being offended is hurtful.

For example, if a black person called a red-haired person a "ginger cunt" and the ginger replied you "black cunt", the ginger could end up in court, despite the fact that they did not instigate the abuse.

This kind of hypocrisy fuels the BNP.

To take the analogy further, having red hair could technically be described as a racial or ethnic origin as the majority of red-heads are of Scots and then Irish descendancy.

To me, it is an example of where the "left" has taken up the racial analysis of society, much to the enjoyment of the BNP.

To paraphrase the BNP "Respect are talking our agenda".

ie. appealing to a group based on a racial/ethnic/religious analysis.

You could say that Sinn Fein do the same in Northern Ireland which is true to some degree.

 

[Columbine]

No, but the phrase "white working class" is something of a problematic, since those who tend to use the phrase, will often use it in a way to describe a certain "culture" or community.

No, the SWP are NOT "white working class".

Well, they are white but they are not working class.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(Britain)#Leadership

Thanks "comrades".

This is particularly interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Callinicos

""Callinicos first became involved in revolutionary politics"" **snigger**

""he is a descendant of the famous historian Lord Acton."" **double snigger**