Anti Obama Protest - Bear Cub Slaughtered

[spring-peeper]

I thought 'coon' was more a British association. Could be wrong though.

Could be.

I'm Canadian and have heard 'coon used more that once as a racial slur. Bear - well, not that I can remember. But I'm not an American.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Could be.

I'm Canadian and have heard 'coon used more that once as a racial slur. Bear - well, not that I can remember. But I'm not an American.

Coon
(U.S. and U.K) a black person. Possibly from Portuguese barraco, a building constructed to hold slaves for sale (1837),[44][45] or from the c. 1830 American folk song "Zip Coon". See also Minstrel show, Coon song.

Yeah you are right.

 

[dilute micro]

I'm afraid that going by what I know of US (and other) unis today, the possibility that it was a student who did this awful thing cannot be ruled out.

Nah I wouldn't rule it out. There are a lot of locals that go to WCU I'm sure. The first things that jump in my mind are that a dead black bear is unusual, a cub even more unusual. Whoever killed it is a skilled hunter but most likely a young person willing to take the chance of being found with an illegal kill. That tells me it was private land it was killed on. And because it's a cub it's easier to carry around than a full grown bear. That's what made me think somebody planned to use it for what they did.

And that's my opinion.....

 

[Treacle Toes]

Could be.

I'm Canadian and have heard 'coon used more that once as a racial slur. Bear - well, not that I can remember. But I'm not an American.

I think people are looking at this in terms of the colour of the bear.

 

[danny la rouge]

Don't make me laugh, danny.

I'm asking why you are certain it is a racist incident. There is nothing in the article to suggest it is. Indeed, it says the motivation is unknown.

Maybe it is a racist incident; it's certainly a possibility. But if you have no information other than what's in the Guardian, then you don't know it is.

It's an unpleasant incident. Definitely. But we know no more than that.

 

[goldenecitrone]

It was a bear with very little brain. So we can rule out it being an uppity bear.

 

[Treacle Toes]

We can if we prove it had delusions of granduer....



Smarter than the average bear

 

[kyser_soze]

Winnie responds to the news yesterday: I'm blonde so not worried

Paddington bear: 'I'm going into hiding and restricting my marmite ad appearances until this business blows over'

 

[danny la rouge]

The bear hunting season in North Carolina began last week.

So, maybe the message was "Just as it is open season, so it is open season on you, Obama".

 

[Diamond]

What a bizarre thing to do. It's difficult to see any kind of racist angle, or any angle for that matter.

Why put the posters only on the bear's head?

What are the chances that this is just a drunken student prank?

 

[danny la rouge]

Why put the posters only on the bear's head?

I assume they were posters of Obama's face, and the idea was that the bear was an Obama effigy, of sorts.

 

[Diamond]

I assume they were posters of Obama's face, and the idea was that the bear was an Obama effigy, of sorts.

Ah. I didn't get that from the reports. That makes a lot more sense.

 

[Barking_Mad]

duck season, wabbit season, duck season, wabbit season......

 

[danny la rouge]

duck season, wabbit season, duck season, wabbit season......

Exactly.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Effigies a-go-go....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/...y-hung_n_135971.html?show_comment_id=17031764

http://www.30sd.com/forum/topic/show?id=2173716:Topic:33768

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017383634&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

 

[danny la rouge]

Effigies a-go-go....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/...y-hung_n_135971.html?show_comment_id=17031764

http://www.30sd.com/forum/topic/show?id=2173716:Topic:33768

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017383634&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Not so cryptic.

(Did you see the Star of David on the ghost effigy's head, btw?)

 

[Treacle Toes]

Not so cryptic.

(Did you see the Star of David on the ghost effigy's head, btw?)

Yeah that particular guy was pretty clear about 'who' he doesn't like.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Well, that would signify the existence of pretty strong views amongst at least some sections of the young rather than those views just being held by old timers lost in the past - so likely to be a problem for a long while yet rather than one fading away.

Students are known for having strong views though, regardless of what those views are.


Anyway, this isn't the first Universtiy incident.

Four students at George Fox University in Newberg confessed to hanging an effigy of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama from a tree on campus and were suspended for up to a year, the university president announced Tuesday.

The students, whose names are not being released, have been suspended on a long-term basis and must complete community service.

Other sanctions include community service and multicultural education, which must be completed before the students can return to campus, said Brad Lau, vice president of student life.

The students were singled out during a campus investigation late last week as those responsible for hanging a life-size cardboard cutout from a tree on campus with a sign saying "Act Six reject."

Act Six is a scholarship and leadership program for Portland students, many of whom are minorities.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/09/four_george_fox_students_confe.html

 

[butchersapron]

Students are known for having strong views though, regardless of what those views are.

a) That's got nothing to with my point
b) No they're not

 

[TomPaine]

I thought 'coon' was more a British association. Could be wrong though.

Yeah my missus was talking about a dog she used to have called a coon hound, I told her you had to be careful using that word in England has it was a slur. She'd not heard it used in that way before in her part of the states.
Also the local liquor stores are called Package stores and they shorten that to the Packee, I told her you couldn't really say that either in England as people would think you are meaning the Asian gentleman on the corners shop and probably wouldn't see it in too kind a light.

TomPaine

 

[Das Uberdog]

That picture of a bear-cub is one of the cutest things I've ever seen...

 

[darkfibre]

Paddington bear: 'I'm going into hiding and restricting my marmite ad appearances until this business blows over'

South American origin, 'unseasonally heavy' coat, carrying an item of luggage and hanging around in railway stations?!?

He'd better stay in hiding unless he wants some Dick to cap his ass seven times.

 

[nino_savatte]

I'm asking why you are certain it is a racist incident. There is nothing in the article to suggest it is. Indeed, it says the motivation is unknown.

Maybe it is a racist incident; it's certainly a possibility. But if you have no information other than what's in the Guardian, then you don't know it is.

It's an unpleasant incident. Definitely. But we know no more than that.

LOL!!! Anyone would think that the very mention of the word "racism" is solely the preserve of certain posters. Btw, you missed my other post about how you (and others) automatically seized on my post as 'evidence' of how I was 'attempting to link the colour of the bear's fur to Obama's skin colour'.

 

[nino_savatte]

There are a lot of Americans who believe that a black man should never run for the country's highest office. To whit, there are many racists in the US who would dearly love to take a shot at Obama.

What I find so laughable is the way in which some of you automatically - and without much thought - have seized on my words as though I'm trying to make some sort of tenuous connection between the colour of the bear's fur and Obama's skin colour. How very lazy of you.

You really must try harder.

You missed this, danny.

 

[darkfibre]

"I hope it doesn't escalate into a tit for tat thing..."

 

[danny la rouge]

you (and others) automatically seized on my post as 'evidence' of how I was 'attempting to link the colour of the bear's fur to Obama's skin colour'.

No I didn't.

 

[danny la rouge]

There are a lot of Americans who believe that a black man should never run for the country's highest office. To whit, there are many racists in the US who would dearly love to take a shot at Obama.

Both statements are correct. However it does not follow from them that the only reason for wanting to shoot Obama (or any other presidential candidate) is racism.

 

[BlackSpecs]

 

[BlackSpecs]

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[dilute micro]

What a bizarre thing to do. It's difficult to see any kind of racist angle, or any angle for that matter.

Not here it isn't.