Anti Fracking Protector Camps

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by Jeremiah18.17, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    Anti fracking protection camps are springing up around the country in response to the government's determination to force fracking on unwilling communities.
    The latest is in Ryedale, following the rejection of a legal challenge to the planning permission there.
    The protector camps are just one part of a strategy of resistance, civil disobedience and direct action that will be rolled out and escalated if the frackers and their political puppets persist in their assault on the environment and health.

    Anti-fracking camp set up near Kirby Misperton shale gas site
     
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  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Do you mean protester instead of protector?
     
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  3. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    No, "protector" is what they are being called, as with DAPL and "Water Protectors". They give a base and focus near the projected sites and are in themselves direct action as subject to legal challenge by the landowners. They also allow bridges and relationships to be built between the activist community and local people if run properly. Previous camps have called themselves, e.g. Barton Moss Community Protection Camp and Upton Community Protection Camp.
     
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  4. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Their heads on sticks. That'll teach 'em.

    The 'Cancer/Google it' banner in that article about the Ryedale camp is the shittest 21st Century 'political' banner so far.
     
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  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

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  6. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

  7. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    An FOI request from Friends of the Earth has revealed the moves by INEOS to seismic test and test drill in parts of Sherwood Forest around Mansfield.Their rival IGas already has planning permission for drilling at Misson Springs on the North Nottinghamshire border with South Yorkshire.

    Residents worried over plans for Sherwood Forest fracking surveys
     
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    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

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  9. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    Thanks Jeremiah.
     
  10. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Thieves indeed
     
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  11. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I've seen a lot of far right and anti semitic types trying to latch onto anti fracking protests over the last few months. I don't know if this is simply online or whether it's playing out on the ground though. Anyone got any info?
     
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  12. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Their heads on sticks. That'll teach 'em.

    Only anecdotal, but someone I know went to the Balcombe camp (year before last maybe?) and who wasn't particularly aware of that dynamic, yet they reported the camp was full of those types with none of it being challenged as far as they saw. Also I know Manchester area has had problems with them as well. Not sure if it's ongoing in the campaigns/groups generally now though...

    Be interested to hear more up to date info as well.
     
  13. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Environmental activism is a hotbed of conspiracy theorists, it's just a few short steps from fluoride in water and chemtrails to Jewish conspiracies. Is it more that rather than fash proper?
     
  14. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Yes, from what i've seen - people who've absorbed anti-semitism and stuff through general conspiracy theory rather than formal membership hitler worshiper types. And i really should make clear i'm not pointing the finger at the mass of people involved in anti-fracking activity at all. Just the people i've come across numerous times over the last few months while researching some other people.
     
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  15. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Yes it's a thing. It doesn't go unchallenged but, well, their beliefs are unshakeable. It's pretty annoying actually.
     
  16. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    It probably isn't challenged enough.
    Mostly because it's a mix of conspiracy theorists and 'all views are valid' liberals. Some of them are even involved in (liberal) anti-fascism without seeing any contradiction. I guess it intersects perfectly with some of the free Palestine views also.
     
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  17. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    The trouble is that fracking protests need to bring in as many people as possible, and this often makes them a honey trap for people so shit that nobody else anywhere is willing to give them the time of day. They're not merely tolerated either, in the case of tosspots like Ian R Crane they get themselves elevated to the position of spokesperson/figurehead. Another big name at Barton Moss was FOTLer and convicted wife beater 'Dr' Steven Peers.

    Consequently I've given up on fracking site tourism and I'm gonna stick to my local group from now on, as I think it's easier to challenge crap behaviour if you know the people you're working with and they know you.
     
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  18. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Broad groups generally. Occupy was full of it.
     
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  19. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    Yes, this. Social media unfortunately empowers conspiraloons way beyond their strength in numbers and in movements challenging the status quo gifts the defenders of corporate and state power a powerful attack tool. I have been alarmed recently at conspiraloon memes and YouTube vids recently being shared by, amongst others in my network, anti-frackers, naive members of Momentum, peace movement people, "apolitical" environmentalists and animal rights types. I usually try to tactfully point out the dodgy source and/or blatant bits of disinformation.
     
  20. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    This popped up on my feed recently. I'd agree with some of it in principle, except it's purpose it to push anti vax and anti science propaganda. Putin said it so it must carry weight.

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    Yet there's zero evidence that he actually said it. Checking facts isn't their strong suit.
     
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  21. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    Balcombe was amazing. Something about the weather, the proximity to London, the media coverage, whatever got a few thousand people off the sofa and camped outside a drilling rig in rural Sussex.

    It felt a lot like Newbury, Fairmile and all that. A panoply of anti authoritarian belief systems. There were a lot of anarchos and environmentalists there but also Freemen, Druids, conspiraloons, Steampunks and horsedrawn hippies.

    There's a few who'd get put off by that or write it all off as 'dodgy' I find it quite invigorating.
     
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  22. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Really? As an anti-fascist you find anti-semitism cloaked as 'anti-authoritarianism' 'invigorating'?
     
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  23. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    An admirable precis.
     
  24. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Not absent of the context it appeared in.
     
  25. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    That was far from the dominant strain of lunacy at the camp. But you have to be there to challenge it, and challenging it doesn't always involve bolshily announcing that you've got all the answers.
     
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  26. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    I agree with this and understand it's difficult. Especially if you like the people espousing fascist ideas.
    I think it's important to have a position on it though. Do any left groups have an actual position on Conspiracy Theorists? I know of one that are formulating a position.
     
  27. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    It's unusual to hear outright 'fascist' ideas. It's also rare to come across a conspiracy theorist who can really argue their corner. Mostly people have latched onto a set of incompatible beliefs, a portfolio of theories that are united by a vague anti-establishment feel.
     
  28. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    I agree that they aren't necessarily the enemy. But their thinking is problematic is it not? Im sure many of the folk on the sidelines waving flags as the Panzers rolled into Berlin had a 'set of incompatible beliefs', part of which based on Jewish control of the financial system and the world.
     
  29. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    Of course it is (a problem that is). But then those sort of contested spaces, and I'm thinking of movements like Occupy and Anonymous as well the anti-fracking camps need to be engaged with. They're rarely a straight fight between 'rational' lefties and anti-semitic hatemongers. There's a plethora of beliefs, a mosaic a lot of which overlaps with our way of thinking. Imagine describing the WTO to someone for the first time in a muddy field without any supporting evidence to hand - wouldn't it sound like the NWO? What I like and find invigorating about spaces like that is they are at least full of people asking questions.
     
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