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Anti fascist call outs, activities etc

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by raknor, May 22, 2015.

  1. Nigel

    Nigel For A Degenerates' Workers State

    So all in all what's the reckoning on UAF/SUTR performance and tactics at the weekend ?
    They refused to be stuck away from any action in Embankment !
    I'm not trying to get online discussion of tactics as that could be counterproductive just personal perspective on issue without too much disclosure !
     
  2. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty For Ethical Capitalism

    Were UaF not part of the original picket (?) by Waterstones? If not then they should have been there but then my critique is about getting ourselves kettled.
    Drop the masks and flags, blend in with the tourists. In nearby bars or museums or whatever. Then appear en-masse at the right moment.
    Easier said than done I know but there were quite a lot of antifascists on the periphery that were free to move about as they weren't dressed in demo chic.
    Unfortunately the picket that the police successfully beat along Whitehall formed the centre of gravity that everyone followed. I think there was like twenty of us max when the fash march appeared and we still weren't clocked as Antifa.
    The irony of the disguise. It indicates who you are.
     
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  3. Nigel

    Nigel For A Degenerates' Workers State

    Yeah think so they were on the other side of road near Trafalgar Square when it looked like they were being kettled !
    Sympathetic to what your saying on our part !
    There were so many plod there it would have been extremely difficult for a successful outcome I think !
     
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  4. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    It's difficult to say what a successful outcome would be in central London. Both sides outnumbered by the police.
     
  5. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty For Ethical Capitalism

    I agree with this. It's almost a pointless exercise. But needs must.
     
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  6. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    Not arguing against mobilising it's always worth doing that. The trouble is that no one knew how big a "bounce" the far right would get. If there had been a couple of thousand of them then gathering in small groups waiting for the moment might have ended up a very bad idea.
     
  7. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    I have to agree with this. I thought they could get 1500 or so and even if we were in one big group we would have been vulnerable.
     
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  8. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty For Ethical Capitalism

    Fair point. It's easier to critique in hindsight rather than foresight.
    Although,
    If you're not dressed in demo chic and the far right did have a bounce I'm not sure how antifascists would be at risk by blending in with tourists. The point I'm making pertains to the tactics of the state rather than fash numbers.
     
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  9. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    I pretty much agree with you.
     
  10. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

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  11. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

  12. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

  13. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    What A Difference A Fortnight Makes, etc.

     
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  14. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty For Ethical Capitalism

    I'm guessing we're not the target audience.
     
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  15. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Who is, then? :confused:
     
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  16. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  17. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty For Ethical Capitalism

    The fash.
     
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  18. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Ah, a cunning ploy to seem as dickish as possible. My mind cannot even conceive of the tactical edge that this might be designed to draw, so it must be fiendishly clever.
     
  19. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty For Ethical Capitalism

    Me neither. But I'm guessing it's to wind them up and we're just, err, inconvenient critics?
     
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  20. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    porridge. and old trainers.
     
  21. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    just keeping you on your toes, luvvy!
     
  22. Red Sky

    Red Sky It was like that when I got here.

    Good one.
     
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  23. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    It's an ancient pop culture reference: "They smelt of pubs, and Wormwood Scrubs, and too many right wing meetings" The Jam/Paul Weller, Down In The Tubestation At Midnight.
     
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  24. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    You think that misogynist shit is OK, then?
     
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