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[butchersapron]

No he's not. That's your misreading.

 

[lights.out.london]

I do publish regularly both hard copy and online; all critically read by peers/workers/service users and editied by professionals. People do read what I write. And I know it helps people in all sorts of positive ways: as health and social care workers, as service users and as carers.

Okay. So the guy isn't a writer? He is remunerated for his writing? Stay with me on this one..!

 

[butchersapron]

Yes that's correct, people who fill out JSA claim forms and send them on are journos too, in fact anyone who writes anything as part of their job is a journo. Please don't wriggle like that.

 

[lights.out.london]

Yes that's correct, people who fill out JSA claim forms and send them on are journos too, in fact anyone who writes anything as part of their job is a journo. Please don't wriggle like that.

Ah, well.

**pearls before swine**

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Misread what? The guy is a journo; part-time, full-time, hobbyist - makes money from his techno-waffle? He's Fourth Estate.

I'm an academic; my main work is writing learning materials (for both hard copy and electronic formats). I get paid to write but I am not a journalist, hobby or otherwise.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

p.s. I can now see why I didn't understand all your posts since you were labouring under a significant misunderstanding.

 

[audiotech]

Where have I posted some of my work; a description of what we try to do yes (in order to show its small p political chracter) but none of the actual content...why are you so deliberately and repeatedly missing the point?

Don't know where you get that idea that I'm missing the point deliberately and repeatedly? Because I'm not.

You posted this:

One of the things I'm working on at the moment are a set of activities, delivered via the internet which bring academic research skills to the health and social care workplace; they aim to help health and social care workers become reflexive critical practitioners, with a commitment to service user empowerment, who can make an ongoing contribution to the development of their professions and most importantly the services they provide.

Have you not 'posted' these words then? Here and elsewhere?

I thought the academic flourishes (highlighted) a load of old bollocks and told you so. You got defensive and implied that I was a 'thick cunt' and said I was 'uninformed'. Butchers then started his stupid games (I believe he thinks you need protecting - condescending twat that he is ) and it all went pear-shaped from then.

Louis, I do understand your point, but academic bollocks is academic bollocks no matter how you present it. Politics is another matter.

 

[The Black Hand]

Butchers then started his stupid games (I believe he thinks you need protecting - condescending twat that he is ) and it all went pear-shaped from then.

Louis, I do understand your point, but academic bollocks is academic bollocks no matter how you present it. Politics is another matter.

Yes, he is a self appointed champion of himself across right on bulletin boards, he doesn't like it when people challenge his opinions...

 

[lights.out.london]

Yes, he is a self appointed champion of himself across right on bulletin boards, he doesn't like it when people challenge his opinions...

Hail! Butchers! :

 

[The Black Hand]

Hail! Butchers! :

We come not to hail caesar but to bury him

 

[soulman]

The memory of the class has forgotten to log in.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Don't know where you get that idea that I'm missing the point deliberately and repeatedly? Because I'm not.

You posted this:



Have you not 'posted' these words then? Here and elsewhere?

I thought the academic flourishes (highlighted) a load of old bollocks and told you so. You got defensive and implied that I was a 'thick cunt' and said I was 'uninformed'. Butchers then started his stupid games (I believe he thinks you need protecting - condescending twat that he is ) and it all went pear-shaped from then.

Louis, I do understand your point, but academic bollocks is academic bollocks no matter how you present it. Politics is another matter.

The bit you highlighted isn't something that is published for the use of students and other lecturers; it was just a shorthand way of describing what we try to do and appears only on these boards...it is not part of my work (as in the thing I get paid to do).

You then went of on one accusing me of not doing stuff that is part of the bread and buter of my work, and not knowing stuff that I couldn't do without; all based on a few lines I had posted to make a point about work (educational work in this instance) being political (a point subsequently accepted by Attica).

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[audiotech]

The bit you highlighted isn't something that is published for the use of students and other lecturers; it was just a shorthand way of describing what we try to do and appears only on these boards...it is not part of my work (as in the thing I get paid to do).

You then went of on one accusing me of not doing stuff that is part of the bread and buter of my work, and not knowing stuff that I couldn't do without; all based on a few lines I had posted to make a point about work (educational work in this instance) being political (a point subsequently accepted by Attica).

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

So nowhere is it published? Fine. I'll accept that it was shorthand (hate to see the long hand version btw ).

Accusing you of what?

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Accusing you of what?

Of this...remember?

Don't keep bringing the SWP into it. As I've said umpteen times before, I've not been a member of said party for 18 years now. I'm not a social worker either, if that was your next question?

I do have a worthless degree in social policy though, so I'm used to the nebulous waffle academia spews forth, which if I came out with, to the people I meet every day, they would look at me as if I was from another planet.

On the ground it's a different story - a bloody crisis in fact - not much of that information given to "critical practitioners" is it?

"Empowerment"? There's hundreds of thousands of people who can't even get basic care at the moment, nevermind the time to think about the latest academic buzzword. "Empowerment" in this context is putting more pressure on already stressed out carers and services that are limited.

As for workers being "reflective"? Do me a favour, they don't have the bloody time.

"Place the service user at the centre"? The centre of what? A huge waiting list?

As for "condensed aspirational 'wish lists'"? Sounds like something you put in a cup of coffee ffs. Wish lists stay as wish lists usually. It's filthy lucre and political will that make your wishes come true Louis.

Please, get out of your ivory tower, stick the academic waffle where the sun don't shine and then take a long hard look at the reality of care.

I've news for you too, it's gonna get a hell of a lot worse.

Telling that to your "reflexive critical practitioners"? No, of course you're not.​

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[audiotech]

Of this...remember?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Twas the 'Ivory Tower' then that upset?

 

[The Black Hand]

Originally Posted by butchersapron
Are you a member of the fourth estate LM? Or was that just another misreading by lights-out-and nobody-home?

LightsoutLondon;
What a charmer you truly are.

Not my fault if you totally misread something and then used that misreading to attack LM.

That point about the condescending/patronising nature of your comments by MC5 was correct.

 

[lights.out.london]

Twas the 'Ivory Tower' then that upset?

 

[The Black Hand]

Absolutely.

 

[lights.out.london]

Q: does having an ivory tower and the Big Book of Bolloxology removed from one's rectum hurt?

 

[The Black Hand]

Q: does having an ivory tower and the Big Book of Bolloxology removed from one's rectum hurt?

Was it 2 volumes as they forgot to take one out?

 

[lights.out.london]

It was a collected works... not many words, but lots of graphs and charts and cute animal characters and a set of crayons to colour them in with.