It means that the DWP has overachieved with putting people on workfare, imposing sanctions, persuading people to sign off, delaying the start of claims etc. Seldom has so much been so competently hidden.
Anti-Atos National Demo - Glasgow Assessment Centre, Wed 19th February
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malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
It means that the DWP has overachieved with putting people on workfare, imposing sanctions, persuading people to sign off, delaying the start of claims etc. Seldom has so much been so competently hidden.
and yet it is still not enough! now, forcing people into penury is a competitive market!
'Atos may lose fit-for-work tests contract as ministers line up rival firms
Government seeking additional providers to offer further capacity and then take over contract, leaked DWP review says'
I'm very curious who left that sign in WsM. Someone went to some trouble to paint up a board and deposit around the corner (the JC is on the other side of the same building). I bet it was an employee of the DWP or ATOS (the receptionist at the gulag is a right mardy cow). This wasn't someone just idling past and shouting random abuse (which, given WsM, I half expected to see).
Or maybe my paranoia is kicking in again
Or maybe my paranoia is kicking in again
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
you are paranoid! everyone says so behind your back!
BigTom
Well-Known Member
Like Greebo said... but all you need to do is read the article:
UK unemployment falls by 125,000
According to the ONS figures, the number of self-employed workers increased by 172,000 to 4.37 million
So as work programme providers push people onto working tax credit and self-employment, unemployment falls. Of course most don't have a real business/job to do and are actually self-unemployed, but prefer the no contact regime of WTC to the savagery of JSA/ESA, even though it's less money.
people think I'm insane because I am frowning all the time...
That's exactly right. Atos are vile but they're just the monkey. The DWP are the organ grinder. If Atos are sacked but the WCA system remains I fear nothing will change.
and when Labour examines and replaces the Work Programme they will suddenly seem to have created unemployment on a large scale. The same when many of these self-employed people collapse because they have been misinformed and poorly served.
This is reckless irresponsibility.
Treacle Toes
Time
Is this true?
chainsawjob
Kipping in the dunes
I really wanted to go to this but decided it was too big a risk that if it was known by the DWP that I'd attended then they'd use it to say I was fit for work. On the day I felt a bit what the hell, and thought sod it I won't be intimidated into not protesting, but as it happened I couldn't make it anyway between a medical appointment, and it being half term so having the kids at home. I was able to drive by just to see what was going on (it felt like some sort of solidarity, I was going to take biscuits, but would have been late for my appointment so couldn't). Sadly there were only five or so people there, and as the atos place is in a car park anyway, no passing traffic of any kind. It's good to see though what people managed to do in some places. Couldn't find any reporting at all of it in the national press when I looked yesterday, but I think local media have covered it in some places.
perhaps they will get the same 'immediate' effect with which IDs 'releases' people from their pittance level benefits.Is this true?
Is this true?
If they do get released, expect even more chaos and poor decision making as the DWP wait for a new contractor.
btw, it looks like ATOS have decided the contract isn't worth the damage done its reputation and risks to its global brand/other services, so people power will have won, expect the ptb to take cognisance of this, things will get harder for benefit campaigners, etc.
If they quit then they should be banned from all contracts and payments.
You know just like people that quit their jobs aren't entitled to JSA.
I expect IDS' bootmless pit of cash (the one he uses to pay for the lawyers sent to fight every decision he doesn't like, which is to say every decision) will be deployed. He will just throw enough moneyat ATOS to convince them to stay until the contract expires and leave Labour with a giant shitting mess to clear up. There's no way the government will let ATOS fuck up their 'great moral crusade' this close to an election.
Or something.
It must be seen as further evidence of just a) what cunts the DWP has become under IDS and b) how fucking poor the WCA is if ATOS want no further part of it.
That being said, anyone who wants to drink from the poison chalice must be even worse.
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
Partly because of abuse my arse. They've made a killing, in all senses of the word, and now look to get out and let their corporate mates, Serco A4e etc. get in on the act. Atos still license the WCA Lima software and run the training of WCA brutalizers/assessors.
Where were the PCS?
frogwoman
Let them eat newts
After being a part of the march for a alternative in 2011. The TUC and all affiliated organisations failed to act on the wave of its success. A huge nuclear arsenal of protest in excess of 250000 people were unleashed on the capital and the powers that be quaked at the thought of such a mob exercising more than just its democratic right to wield a placard.
Given the gross molestation of the people of Britain both by its government and it's elected representatives why oh why has nothing been done to follow that massive protest up?
The TUC betrayed the people by toeing the establishment line. We are all powerless without national coordination of protests against whichever issue is at the forefront.
Let's expect more. And stop all the navel gazing. Lobby the TUC theunion movement is there do the unemployed too!
Don't bother writing to your MP they are a waste if time.
Protest protest protest in as large a group as is possible and look after each other!
Given the gross molestation of the people of Britain both by its government and it's elected representatives why oh why has nothing been done to follow that massive protest up?
The TUC betrayed the people by toeing the establishment line. We are all powerless without national coordination of protests against whichever issue is at the forefront.
Let's expect more. And stop all the navel gazing. Lobby the TUC theunion movement is there do the unemployed too!
Don't bother writing to your MP they are a waste if time.
Protest protest protest in as large a group as is possible and look after each other!
I want to support the unions, but they do not even want to support their members.
