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Answers to Questions Thread

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Kevin Rye, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Lyham

    Lyham Well-Known Member

  2. pitchfork

    pitchfork Well-Known Member

    Sorry Kev but who are you? How much do you get paid? Are you the knight of Meadows?
     
  3. cambelt

    cambelt Well-Known Member

    Bottom line is that it is really difficult to see what value Kevin Rye is adding to the current situation. He's not really offering clarity, or mediation, or even possible solutions to the club and supporters just dogmatically spouting PR for a NYC-based hedge-fund. It is really apparent that he doesn't give a flying about the future of the club as long as he makes a pile through being the acceptable face of Meadows and, for the sake of all the credibility he will lose in footballing circles after this, I really hope he gets more for this than they spent on the outdoor bar. One day he might think about when it all changed for him.
     
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  4. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    Yes, but we don't own the ground like they do.
     
  5. Bill Azzi

    Bill Azzi New Member

    Kevin,
    Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere or if I have misunderstood any of the answers/comments previously given.

    Should Dulwich Hamlet Football Club Ltd, which I believe is the entity recognised by the Football Association as being the Club, go into administration, would one of the assets of the company be any lease/licence it may currently have to play at Champion Hill ?
    If so, would this either revert to whichever company granted it, automatically become null and void, or become an asset any administrator would need to deal with ?
     
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  6. AveryDave

    AveryDave Well-Known Member

    I'll leave it to those asking the questions to judge whether or not they're getting the answers they need, but it seems clear to me that Mr. Rye is merely acting as a glorified postbox, regurgitating responses from Meadow only to the questions they want to answer, with those answers serving to either perpetuate messages they want to get traction, or diverting away from the real issues being raised.

    He's not acting in any official capacity, and it's clear he hasn't got any influence or decision making capability. I realise that the previous (and to an extent on the things that really matter, ongoing) silence from Meadow makes it very tempting to try and engage with the puppet they've put forward, but it seems to me this is a distractionary tactic, which is succeeding in creating more noise than it's dispersing. There's a very real benefit to them in keeping any reaction fragmented and uncoordinated, or even worse for us, divided.
     
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  7. cambelt

    cambelt Well-Known Member

    And I wonder who's going to end up footing the bill for his "services"?
     
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  8. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    If we are going to be paying for him, can we at least get him to mop up the bogs on a Saturday, play to his skills and all that...
     
  9. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

  10. Kevin Rye

    Kevin Rye New Member

    Hi Mishi. Are you asking specifically for my daily rate? Like other consultants in almost any other line of work, it depends entirely on the type of work, length of the project, risks, etc, as to what I charge. I bill on a monthly basis as most consultants do, and I am paid.
     
  11. Kevin Rye

    Kevin Rye New Member

    As I said to Mishi, it depends on what the project is etc. But like most consultants you'll speak to, I don't publish a 'rate' as such.
     
  12. Kevin Rye

    Kevin Rye New Member

    Cleaning toilets is something I've had to do in the fairly recent past, so if you don't mind I'll swerve that one!
     
  13. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    First and foremost, I am asking if you know that your wages/fees will be added to money paid by Dulwich Hamlet Football Club Limited. As nobody from the Football Club would have agreed to hire you, therefore I'm hoping you're paid by Meadows Residential.

    You're actual wages, if they are not a specific Football Club payment are between you and your employers, though disclosing them, I would have thought, wouldn't be a problem, seeing as you have been so keep to tell the world what you purport the 'playing budget' to be.
     
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  14. darryl

    darryl this wasn't supposed to happen

    So is your bill being loaded onto the football club's debt?
     
  15. Kevin Rye

    Kevin Rye New Member

    There may well have been some confusion about my role here. I am acting in an 'official capacity', as my services are retained on the project by Meadow Residential to advise on the football communications side of this work, because of my background, which can be read here: About Me

    In regards of what I do with the questions, I answer some where I can, and where the others are concerned (there may be more complex legal or financial issues that need to be considered first), I go back to Meadow, talk with them, and we try to give the most honest answer possible to the person who's asked it.

    I realise that this approach might seem strange, especially as this whole scenario isn't just one involving a football club, but a property developer. Neither sectors are known for their openness or what has become an overused and quite corrupted word, 'transparency', but that is the way I work. Cheers.
     
  16. cambelt

    cambelt Well-Known Member

    Yeah Kev, is our purported yearly loss going to now be £160,000?
     
  17. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    Much like the toilets, he's swerving that one!
     
  18. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    Kevin.

    Can we take your refusal to fully answer Mishi about whether your invoices are bring recharged to the football club as confirmation they are not?

    If not, why are you refusing to tell a football club committee member about how money he holds some legal responsibility for is being spent and how much to budget for moving forwards?

    You have every right to inform Mishi and the committee of the answer in private however if your fees are being recharged to the club - and given Meadow have said they are not providing further assistance this seems potentially plausible - failure to answer the question would be appalling. Mishi has made it clear he doesn't believe the football side engaged you and, logically, therefore believes no contract exists and no payment due.

    If you believe otherwise the committee need to know urgently.
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2017
  19. Kevin Rye

    Kevin Rye New Member

    I'm happy to confirm that I am paid by the investor, not by the football club, or by income from the bar etc.
     
  20. Kevin Rye

    Kevin Rye New Member

    See my answer to Mishi: I'm happy to confirm that I am paid by the investor, not by the football club, or by income from the bar etc.
     
  21. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    Thank you.

    It seems unreasonable to expect you to know where every penny of your income from the investor comes from. You have explicitly stated you are not being paid out of the Champion Hill bar income etc.

    As such, my reading of this is the investor, by which I presume you mean Meadow, have confirmed to you that they will not retain any bar income received at Champion Hill stadium from the date they withdrew and that they will permit that revenue to go to Dulwich Hamlet FC.

    Is this reading correct? If not, how can you be certain some of the funding to pay you is not coming indirectly from the pockets of Hamlet fans via the bar?
     
  22. pitchfork

    pitchfork Well-Known Member

    Can you tell me what you are being paid for? I really don't understand. I would assume you have been given some sort of brief/contract from Meadow?

    Your about me section on your website is as clear as mud. It just states a load of waffle about building relationships, what does that actually mean? Are you saying you are trying to build relationships with the club to ensure a sustainable future?

    Correct me if I'm wrong you are being paid by meadow to answer questions. Surely meadow could save money and just answer them themselves?
     
  23. AndyF

    AndyF DHFC Beer Aficionado

    Here's a question for you Kevin Rye in the interests of transparency and honesty and since you declared the playing budget.

    How much are you being paid? How much are full time employees being paid? What's their bonus structure?

    I'll go first. I left in September after working for Hadley/Meadow/Healey Development Solutions for three years. I was on a zero hours contract with zero benefits responsible for cash, stock and up to ten staff on a matchday dealing with crowds ranging from 600 to 3000. All for the princely sum of £10.50 per hour (this was only raised in April from £9.75 which is the same rate that every other bar staff member is on). No bonus structure.

    Oh and I co-designed two beers with local breweries, formed relationships with a multitude of local businesses (which in turn has increased sponsorship), organised a South London Beer Festival at the Club and arranged screenings as Co-organiser of Camberwell Free Film Festival for four years.

    Over to you.
     
  24. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    Meadows pay him to make us think questions are being answered. Smoke and mirror PR bullshit.
     
  25. Radical-Cliff

    Radical-Cliff Old Spice

    Kevin,

    Based on the club statement;

    "We were told that as of November 1st 2017, all financial management and payments would revert back to DHFC Ltd’s majority shareholder and Director, Nick McCormack."

    What does this mean? DHFC LTd get back the bar and rent income from facilities from Car Wash, Gym, Boxing, Squash, Functions and other rental income? This would help us know our real financial position.
     
  26. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    Kevin

    Can you confirm a suggestion posted in another thread that the investor has recorded the money spent paying DHFC's bills owed when they took over the ground as a loan to the club. As such, the debt owed remains with the club and was actually transferred and not cleared.

    Please see the following link which records Peter as stating the debt had been cleared.

    New owners announced - News - Dulwich Hamlet Football Club

    Also this link which states the debts were settled.

    Champion Hill: A New Approach to Development? | Hadley Property Group Ltd

    This appears contradictory to statements the debts were transferred and not settled / cleared. Clarification of which is correct would be appreciated.
     
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  27. Bill Azzi

    Bill Azzi New Member

    Kevin,
    In addition to my question from yesterday may I please ask two further questions ?

    Existing question
    Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere or if I have misunderstood any of the answers/comments previously given.


    Should Dulwich Hamlet Football Club Ltd, which I believe is the entity recognised by the Football Association as being the Club, go into administration, would one of the assets of the company be any lease/licence it may currently have to play at Champion Hill ?
    If so, would this either revert to whichever company granted it, automatically become null and void, or become an asset any administrator would need to deal with ?


    First additional question
    If the limited company were unable to be saved via Administration, a Corporate Voluntary Arrangement or other such procedure and was liquidated, what would the likelihood be of the company that owns the stadium, Greendale Property Ltd (Isle of Man), or whoever has authority to act for them, granting a licence/lease on affordable terms to any new Club formed by the Committee/the Trust ?

    Second additional question
    If supporters via the 12th Man Scheme or via individual donations pay all or part of the playing budget, will they be recorded as creditors of the limited company ?
     
  28. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    Can I add a little to that one.

    1. How long does the existing lease run for?

    2. Under what, if any, circumstances would Greendale Property Ltd (IoM) or any authorised agents be able to activate any break clauses that may exist in the lease and prevent the existing football club from remaining resident until the lease terminates.

    Thank you.
     
  29. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    F.A.O Kevin Rye.

    In light of the above can you confirm why news that Southwark and Meadow are re-starting talks seems to have come out via the national media and not you. It is a rather important bit of news in terms of the bigger picture.

    Did Meadow not tell you?
    Did you advise them not to inform the Hamlet fans?
    Did you advise Meadow to issue a statement only for them to disregard your advice?
    Or, are The Guardian incorrect and no such talks have occurred / are scheduled?

    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2017
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  30. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Legend.
     

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