Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by krtek a houby, Mar 6, 2018.
Critically ill man is former Russian spy
Too early to tell, I guess but all very suspicious.
Sounds as dodgy as fuck, doesn't it?
In disUnited Kingdom Russia owns you.
Do russian spys get paid a lot or something? Because otherwise fuck being a russian spy.
Although I said that about being a narco too, and that is still a popular job.
Putin is a wise and just ruler. Everyone says so
eh, if your dice come up the other way you end up with a football team and the swishest flat in london
Their hitmen certainly have a taste for the dramatic.
When you put it that way i can see why people get tempted
Another Russian who (allegedly) spied for Britain. The Kremlin’s way of saying they, (the Brits) can’t/won’t protect you.
These days, the James bond stuff and false passportery is fucked because social media and stuff - the ruskies are on top of this - there has been a blanket ban on anyone working in sensitive areas, not just the james bond sections, from going to the WC this summer , such is the scope of the russian operation.
if this is Russia behind this (or more likely a proxy freelancer) then yes, this is saying we will bury you. don't you fucking worry, we are on top of this. this is headlines around the world. top quality marketing ploy.
Boris flapping and clucking impotently in the HoC just now.
I would pay good money to see the stuff they have on him.
That's a really interesting read. Thanks.
It was virtually publicly acknowledged that the old Rossiya airlines outlet on Berkley square was an FSB London office. They never seemed to sell any tickets either.
It's the the way the UK doesn't actually give a shit which is alarming.
This guy got next to no coverage:
Whistleblower found dead near home 'never feared for his life'
And did anyone believe for a nano-second that this was suicide: Boris Berezovsky found dead at his Berkshire home ?
I've not tried to fully swot up on this case yet as there wont be enough detail in the public domain yet. But I think I saw mention that this bloke was the one that the 'fake rock with a pda inside' was used to collect info from. As in that fake rock that Russia discovered and then mocked in their media, leading to further mockery about the incident on our topical panel-based tv comedy programs of the day.
I've gone a bit rusty on all the details but I think this was one I had no trouble at least keeping an open mind on, could have been a suicide, dont think that possibility was ruled out and assassination ruled in to my satisfaction, not even close. Especially as, whilst Russia rather likely deserves its reputation for this sort of thing, several other agendas have an interest in making Russian assassination claims for propaganda purposes, even for cases where its a lot less obvious what actually happened. Unless I am to believe that no exile who has lost a considerable chunk of their power, influence and wealth would ever kill themselves, I will keep an open mind on all but the most blatant of cases.
As for this new case, the little detail we have so far does make it seem like it could end up in the blatant pile, but I often expect further plot twists so will wait.
I'm sure there's a lot more to it than Russian guy pisses off Putin and gets whacked in the UK. But it does appear that quite a few Russians who have pissed off Putin do end up brown bread over here in murky circumstances...
His wife, elder brother and son have all died in the last two years.
That's a bit unlucky isn't it.
"He was doing strange hand movements, looking up to the sky"
I was just reading about that. His wife died of cancer shortly after they came to England and their son died in Russia.
It does seem extremely unlucky.
I read a report ..can't remember which online paper...but it reported that one of the paramedics who arrived at the scene and helped both of them is also still in hospital
..it does appear to be very suspicious.
I imagine if you are a Russian spy who has betrayed your country and quite possibly caused the deaths of fellow spies there will be a lot of people who not only dislike you intensely but have the temperment and knowledge to see you off. I suspect it is not an official hit, more likely an ex spy or mafia contact who freelanced.
Why now though?
And why the daughter too?
Someone from Buzzfeed was on Radio Five this morning - she said that her investigations had put the number of Russian dissidents (of various flavours) who had posed their clogged in the UK under circumstances that either failed the smell test, or who had 'FSB hit' written in letters you could see from the moon, was 14 since Putin came to power.
One had weedkiller in his stomach, but apparently that was 'natural causes'.
This thread bought to you by the letter V?
Er..yes..can i just say what a great leader putin is. I won't hear a word against him.
But who’s hit Boris?
To send the message to others that it is not just you but your family that will get killed.
They ate together at zizzi which is presumably where they got poisoned. Maybe it was in the table water?
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