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Another reason not to vote for Livingslime

Between KBJ, posternumbers, tbaldwin, and durutti, I find myself reminded of a a Greek tragedy. they are the chorus...

Chorus
Woe, woe to me for this thy bitter bane,
Surely the food man feeds upon is pain!
How wilt thou bear thee through this livelong day,
Lost, and thine evil naked to the light?
Strange things are close upon us--
 
bluestreak said:
Between KBJ, posternumbers, tbaldwin, and durutti, I find myself reminded of a a Greek tragedy. they are the chorus...

Chorus
Woe, woe to me for this thy bitter bane,
Surely the food man feeds upon is pain!
How wilt thou bear thee through this livelong day,
Lost, and thine evil naked to the light?
Strange things are close upon us--
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Ponce. :mad:
 
Blimey, what a strange thread. Funny how everyone is against Ken atm, but his record is really quite good, and I would much prefer him to Boris, who will become the most powerful conservative in the land, and could possibly usher in the Tories.

Do people here really forget that fast?

Ken has squeezed decent efficiency out of the metropolitan police, negotiated better deals from the tube operators, got regeneration money for London out of NL thru the Olympics, has created a consortium of big cities to invest in green technologies not to mention the successful congestion charge and oyster cards, and still people are falling for the media, concentrating on a few problems any incumbent would have, whilst blatantly ignoring the horror which would be Boris.

Am I the only one who remembers HIGNFY? Is that the kind of guy we should be voting for?
 
Ken *really* reminded me of New Labour when he stood up to the PPP :rolleyes:

He is pragmatic, Brown has endorsed him once (through gritted teeth no doubt) but the NL apparatus has been notable mostly by it's absence.

Personally i wish Ken wasn't standing, as i have said on another thread i think two term's is enough for any elected leader, the rot set's in after that - but i'll be voting for him because the alternative just doesn't bear thinking about.

Boris Johnson - i'd have a drink with him, but running my city, no fucking way.
 
tbh i can see no difference between paddick livignstone and johnson... they are all entrenched poltical figures with all the dogma of the parties they stand for.

and the greren girl is a nutcase. who has some kind of mayor fixation wasn't she the hackney mayor candidate too...
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
tbh i can see no difference between paddick livignstone and johnson... they are all entrenched poltical figures with all the dogma of the parties they stand for.

and the greren girl is a nutcase. who has some kind of mayor fixation wasn't she the hackney mayor candidate too...
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How is Paddick entrenched?

He is an irrelevence as far as the electorate seem concerned. If the Lib Dem's were taking it seriously they'd have put up Vince Cable or someone, not an ex copper looking for a spring board in to politics.
 
Gmarthews said:
Blimey, what a strange thread. Funny how everyone is against Ken atm, but his record is really quite good, and I would much prefer him to Boris, who will become the most powerful conservative in the land, and could possibly usher in the Tories.

Do people here really forget that fast?

Ken has squeezed decent efficiency out of the metropolitan police, negotiated better deals from the tube operators, got regeneration money for London out of NL thru the Olympics, has created a consortium of big cities to invest in green technologies not to mention the successful congestion charge and oyster cards, and still people are falling for the media, concentrating on a few problems any incumbent would have, whilst blatantly ignoring the horror which would be Boris.

Am I the only one who remembers HIGNFY? Is that the kind of guy we should be voting for?
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If there was someone other than Boris to vote for to unseat Livingslime then I would do. Sadly, my number one choice Paddick doesn't stand an earthly. I regard removing Livingstone as a number one priority. If we have to have a mad Tory one term mayor to get rid of him then if may well be worth it.
 
Dan U said:
How is Paddick entrenched?

He is an irrelevence as far as the electorate seem concerned. If the Lib Dem's were taking it seriously they'd have put up Vince Cable or someone, not an ex copper looking for a spring board in to politics.
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Now Vince Cable is a very credible Lib Dem personality. Could have been very good.
 
Gmarthews said:
Blimey, what a strange thread. Funny how everyone is against Ken atm, but his record is really quite good, and I would much prefer him to Boris, who will become the most powerful conservative in the land, and could possibly usher in the Tories.

Do people here really forget that fast?

Ken has squeezed decent efficiency out of the metropolitan police, negotiated better deals from the tube operators, got regeneration money for London out of NL thru the Olympics, has created a consortium of big cities to invest in green technologies not to mention the successful congestion charge and oyster cards, and still people are falling for the media, concentrating on a few problems any incumbent would have, whilst blatantly ignoring the horror which would be Boris.

Am I the only one who remembers HIGNFY? Is that the kind of guy we should be voting for?
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I read an interesting article this morning about Boris.

People who knew him back at university seem to agree that he put on the 'buffoon mask' to hide his serious commitment to rightwing policies and now can't take it off.

Interesting point as well in that he is one of the first examples of the American political career making its way over here: rather than just becoming rich before going into politics, become a celebrity then go into politics and you'll quickly find yourself at the top (Schwarzenegger is the best example).

And of course, his strategist has told him not to open his mouth and say anything during the campaign for fear of embarrassment. Just leave it up to the Evening Standard and the dog-whistle politics to get out the Tory core vote.

And of course, the odd 'leftwing' bell-end that thinks getting rid of Ken is more important than thinking about the consequences. No names need to be mentioned.
 
Dan U said:
Personally i wish Ken wasn't standing, as i have said on another thread i think two term's is enough for any elected leader, the rot set's in after that - but i'll be voting for him because the alternative just doesn't bear thinking about.

Boris Johnson - i'd have a drink with him, but running my city, no fucking way.
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So, between a possibly corrupt mayor and a Tory, you'd vote for Ken...?
 
I don't think the concept of leftwing politics will survive another term of Livingstone, quite frankly, as he and his cronies antics are only serving to thoroughly discredit it. People dribbling and panting in support of him might want to dwell on this and on the rightward lurch we're likely to see four years later - which will outmatch anything people fear from Boris.
 
poster342002 said:
I don't think the concept of leftwing politics will survive another term of Livingstone, quite frankly, as he and his cronies antics are only serving to thoroughly discredit it
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you've lost me there.. Are you saying Ken hasn't done anything that deserves the term 'leftwing' under his role as Mayor?

the rightward lurch we're likely to see four years later - which will outmatch anything people fear from Boris.
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nope, don't understand this either...
 
littlebabyjesus said:
A direct question for KBJ: Do you feel comfortable voting for a bigot?
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I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for someone who unappolgetically embraced bigots like Livingstone did.

I think that Boris has a bit of foot in mouth disease but I don't think he is an out and out bigot like those Livingstone consorts with or people like Barnbrook.
 
citydreams said:
you've lost me there.. Are you saying Ken hasn't done anything that deserves the term 'leftwing' under his role as Mayor?
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What he's passing off in the name of leftwing politics is going to alienate people from the concept of leftwing politics very fast.
 
poster342002 said:
I don't think the concept of leftwing politics will survive another term of Livingstone, quite frankly, as he and his cronies antics are only serving to thoroughly discredit it. People dribbling and panting in support of him might want to dwell on this and on the rightward lurch we're likely to see four years later - which will outmatch anything people fear from Boris.
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I agree. Whats left of the mainstream non labour left will be utterly discredited in the minds of many if Livingstone wins.

I also agree that another four years of Livingstone could lead people to vote in desparation for more extreme right wing parties.
 
As in not everyone's a changeable, hysterical numpty with the deeply held leftist principles of a trifle without enough gelatine.
 
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