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Another one bites the dust: The Queen

Ol Nick said:
It's often hard to get onto a bus with kids because of the 80% of people, the commuters and 20somethings, who will push in front of anybody and anything to get onto a bus or a tube.

And you'd have thought that nobody had ever heard of the priorty seats on the tube.

So fuck your "ex", eh?


Nice. Seeming as you weren't there then what makes you feel you have the right to be abusive?
 
citydreams said:
Nice. Seeming as you weren't there then what makes you feel you have the right to be abusive?
Seeming as *you* weren't there, what gives you the right to be abusive?
 
citydreams said:
er, I was there. Care to answer the question now?
In your story it was your "ex" not you who was pissed off. This abuse of fanta gets thinner by the minute.

But I think he's wrong about the market. You can't buy anything local in Brixton (and you can't buy any decent meat). No strawberries in June; no pumpkins in October. It's a joke.

Peckham has far better quality markets but it's certainly less posh than Brixton. You can buy buffalo cheese there on a Sunday morning.
 
Ol Nick said:
In your story it was your "ex" not you who was pissed off.

what? now you're telling me how I felt? I though he was stupid and inconsiderate. Not enough to piss me off on a cold morning.
 
calm down you two!!!!

Now about the markets, having been to Brixton every weekend through the years of 1978 to 1993, and still visit on a regular basis, I can safely say that the market has declined over this period. The Brixton area, as a whole has had some gentrification but the market has lost a lot of traders, including the second hand market and is a shadow of it's former self.
 
Brixton market = shit. Looks shabby, mostly crap produce, with a few exceptions. Not gentrified. At all. Fanta's wrong on this one.
 
citydreams said:
you annoy me. (citydreams being very brave)

I'm at a loss to understand why you're going off topic and posting up false personal abuse like that?!

Even more confusing is how Editor and other mods have not removed your post and warned you about such behavior. I understand they they take a dim view of posting up alleged personal accusations like that.

You may rest assured that I'm not in the habit of behaving like that with any children, let alone my own: so your ex is either lying or you're lying or both of you are lying.

But if I'm annoying you or your ex anyway that much then perhaps you should tell me about it then and there face to face?

That way we can resolve the issue in a more appropriate manner, sound fair enough?
 
fanta said:
Remove your false/alleged of-topic accusation about me please.

You must know it is out of order.

Will do. It must be someone that looks just like that gets the bus from Coldharbour Lane with his kid?

Perhaps you could also save your petty point scoring with Editor for another board?
 
citydreams said:

That's better!

My advice is if you see this person again then be sure to have the courage to reprimand him/her and sort it out then and there and face to face rather than posting what you think you saw on here.

Understood? :)
 
citydreams said:
Does it matter?
It certainly does. You have accused him of an action that is tantamount to child abuse on the basis of your ex's eyewitness evidence. That is, she saw somebody she thought looked like him among a crowd of people getting on a bus at a busy stop. Knowing fanta, and his child, I find her story astonishingly unlikely.

This is so unlike you. I'm shocked, to be honest.
 
Before this thread plunges into a supercharged bunfight, I would respectfully remind posters to peruse the section of the FAQ concerning posting up personal details.

Thank you.
 
Pickman's model said:
as long as the good intention remains a dive and as long as the other pub on the cnr of walworth rd and east st keeps its increasingly shabby sign, i'll be satisfied that the evil machinations of gentrifiers have not yet sunk east st mkt.

The Bell, the Masons Arms, and (especially) the Good Intent, remain resolutely dive-like.

The Beaten Path near, but not actually on, the corner of Walworth Road and East Street, is slightly less tatty, but is scarcely an upmarket 'bar' or anything.

In general, gentrification in SE17 is strictly limited .... thank heaven for huge areas of council housing!! But see 'Subway' thread (Brixton forum) for what's happened to the erstwhile Famous Walworth Road cafe! :( :mad:

Someone (editor?) was saying that East Styreet market doesn;t get that crowded.

It does on Saturdays and especially Sundays -- packed!!

It remains largely unchanged in character. It's much bigger/more extensive than Brixton markets. Good and traditional down our market still ...
 
I agree that Brixton market has gone downhill in recent years. A lot of my favourite stalls are no longer there (especially the ones on Pope's Road, and I no longer really buy my fruit and veg there. I remember speaking to one old bloke who'd had a stall on the market for years, and he told me that there was no demand for seasonal produce, people just wanted cheap cabbage and onions. I can't help but feel that he's wrong about that.
 
IntoStella said:
Knowing fanta, and his child, I find her story astonishingly unlikely.

Have I ever met fanta??? :confused:

Several people seem to know who he is, but I don't.

All I have to go on is how he posts here, which is probably a shame ... ;)
 
Reading the last few pages of this thread it is indeed a wonder anyone could argue that Brixton would not benefit from total 'gentrification'. :confused:
 
Getting back OT I think the long term decline of pubs across Britain is because Britain is getting wealthier.

Basically manual jobs (e.g. streetsweeping) tend to be fairly similar anywhere so people don't move much for jobs since employers can fill their jobs from local people. By contrast many professional jobs are highly specialised so that only small proportions of people can do any given job. So professionals tend to be much more mobile. This in turn means that they have much weaker links in any community that they live in.. and in turn this means they are less likely to pop down to their local pub to chat to their neighbours even though they have more money to spend.

Combined with that I think there is a social change that's happened that means that men are less inclined to go down the pub by themselves and are more likely to go with their partners. This going out is often in pubs but less often than it would have been when men used to go down to their pub every night.

It's noticeable I think that poorer areas tend to have more of the traditional boozers with older guys hanging out in them while more professional areas most of the pubs have closed or converted into restaurants/ bars.

If you doubt that the proportion of people in 'professional' jobs has increased enormously consider this:
Originally posted by the Economic & social research council Manual occupations shrank from nearly three-quarters of the workforce in 1911 to around 38 per cent in 1991.

here
 
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