Another Nail in the Coffin of Net Neutrality

[Sasaferrato]

Because we are generally well supplied with water. But what is a hosepipe ban apart from a form of throttling? There is no question that charging people for the water they use reduces the incentive to be wasteful.

I think the idea of net neutrality as a shibboleth where any kind of deviation is a slippery slope to Orwellian nightmare is not helpful. There are some cases (e.g. spam) where it is obviously a good thing that content is discriminated against.

ISP throttling is also a good thing. I don't want my light browsing in the evenings to get disrupted by someone who's hogging bandwidth by downloading gigabytes of media. If they want fast download speeds they should pay for a premium service that gives them more bandwidth.

I'm not comfortable with companies bringing political considerations into how much they are charging sites - but that seems to me to be a different issue to charging for the intensity of resource consumption. I suppose the question for me in this case is why ISPs/network owners feel entitled to double-dip: first in charging for download bandwidth usage, and then in charging for server bandwidth usage...

This may bite them on the arse. I pay a lot of money for my 200Mb service, if I find that speeds are dropping with the things I use the net for, then I'll move to a package that matches the available speed. Many others would do the same I imagine.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Olivia looks like a boy. Oh..

Yep, nothing like a double mastectomy to raise a laugh.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Thy get to pick and choose what traffic goes to whom and sell such access to content providers.

They also get to actively block sites for their own interests. The monopoly providers in the US also do a lot of other stuff. One of the earlier net neutrality cases was a company blocking VOIP because they wanted to make people use their own pricey long distance phone service.

 

[Mumbles274]

I've seen things that seem a little scare mongering but in principle could happen?.. In the US this is... Go to YouTube, nope, you'll have to pay, your ISP doesn't support it? Tough, cant even pay for it.Which means as someone said, where there is only one ISP available... The internet 'could' look very different

 

[Santino]

Low-bandwidth things like Yahoo groups and email lists may come back into fashion.

 

[Poi E]

Yep, nothing like a double mastectomy to raise a laugh.

You have a fucking twisted mind, dude.

 

[DotCommunist]

Low-bandwidth things like Yahoo groups and email lists may come back into fashion.

crowdfunded peoples networks, the techs cheaper now than then and the knowledge more distributed. Parallel internets but not like evil darkweb

 

[Santino]

crowdfunded peoples networks, the techs cheaper now than then and the knowledge more distributed. Parallel internets but not like evil darkweb

I believe there is a Charles Stross story on this theme.

 

[8ball]

Low-bandwidth things like Yahoo groups and email lists may come back into fashion.

And Urban.

 

[Poi E]

AOL, anyone

 

[Lord Camomile]

Low-bandwidth things like Yahoo groups and email lists may come back into fashion.

Until the ISP blocks it for whatever reason, surely? If they can determine what you can and can't access, just like the VOIP case above they can just make alternatives to their own services and products inaccessible.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

“Throttling” can be a fatal throttling.

 

[Dogsauce]

Does this mean that ISPs can't currently block certain content? Stuff like AOL was always heavily filtered wasn't it? I don't think this is the same thing. I presume there must be some right to block spam/hacked/illegal sites just for the common good - if links advertised through spam never resolved it'd remove the incentive to send it.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Does this mean that ISPs can't currently block certain content? Stuff like AOL was always heavily filtered wasn't it? I don't think this is the same thing. I presume there must be some right to block spam/hacked/illegal sites just for the common good - if links advertised through spam never resolved it'd remove the incentive to send it.

AOL provided a portal and tried to get everyone to use it as much as possible via their themed browser. but you could access everything if you went outside that.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

This may bite them on the arse. I pay a lot of money for my 200Mb service, if I find that speeds are dropping with the things I use the net for, then I'll move to a package that matches the available speed. Many others would do the same I imagine.

Only works if the competition don't follow suit. I don't think my 200 meg is that pricey really for what it is. It's a luxury sure, but compared to a few years back or what people pay in N America who then still have data caps despite hefty fees.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Only works if the competition don't follow suit. I don't think my 200 meg is that pricey really for what it is. It's a luxury sure, but compared to a few years back or what people pay in N America who then still have data caps despite hefty fees.

I know what you mean, you should have seen my phone bill when I was on dial up. It was a penny a minute, but there are a lot of minutes in a month.

 

[Sasaferrato]

You have a fucking twisted mind, dude.

What other inference can one take from the initial comment. 'Olivia looks like a boy. Oh..' eg flat chested. Poor taste I thought.

However, if that was not your intent, I apologise unreservedly.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I know what you mean, you should have seen my phone bill when I was on dial up. It was a penny a minute, but there are a lot of minutes in a month.

I was still at school and my Dad got an ISDN line. I started playing Quake. They were not impressed with the first quarter phone bill.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I was still at school and my Dad got an ISDN line. I started playing Quake. They were not impressed with the first quarter phone bill.

I've discovered a game that I used to play, Galacta. it works with windows 10. Galacta - The Battle for Saturn.

I played it way back, my high score was over 1,800,000... Give it a try. I've played about 30 games, high score 128,643. The first three sets, they will come from the left, then the right then both together. You need patience.

 

[Poi E]

What other inference can one take from the initial comment. 'Olivia looks like a boy. Oh..' eg flat chested. Poor taste I thought.

However, if that was not your intent, I apologise unreservedly.

Fuck man it was the short hair and homoerotic video that I meant.

Unreserved apology accepted.