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Ann Coulter unhappy with Bush

Johnny Canuck2 said:
Even Ann is turning on this lame duck president.

Johnny,

I have been on these boards for a number of years, though post more these days than I used to. It seems from your posting history you could be seen as politically to the right and at times too much an apologist for the GOP.

In recent months I have however detected a change of view, I would say a moderate leftward shift. If you don't mind me asking what was it that caused this? I read one of your posts which suggested it was the US govt response to Katrina- did you already have these doubts beforehand? Just wondering like.
 
No i'm going to dissagre with ann on this one.

Just thought I'd repeat this quote from pbman for posterity. Nice one mate, it's a start. We're proud of you :p

Of course I'm not going to sue anyone for calling me a coward. It was a lighthearted attempt to end some childish behaviour. phil was hurt, I understand his reaction.
 
To be honest, I think johnny has often been misrepresented on these boards. I've often seen reasonable posts responded to in a kneejerk fashion. I'm not saying johhny is a commie, he just ain't a thoughtless bushbot.
 
Jo/Joe said:
To be honest, I think johnny has often been misrepresented on these boards.

There are a number of posters who spend all their time on these boards providing misrepresentations. They know who they are.
 
herman said:
Johnny,

I have been on these boards for a number of years, though post more these days than I used to. It seems from your posting history you could be seen as politically to the right and at times too much an apologist for the GOP.

In recent months I have however detected a change of view, I would say a moderate leftward shift. If you don't mind me asking what was it that caused this? I read one of your posts which suggested it was the US govt response to Katrina- did you already have these doubts beforehand? Just wondering like.

I might be seen as being politically to the right, but what I am, is someone who reacts to events. I'm not flogging any doctrine.

My reactions to 911 were broadly similar to some of those in the US govt, and also similar to those of many north americans. To that extent, I would defend the actions of the US govt.

WRT Bush, prior to 911, I considered him at best a nonentity, at worst a flawed liability. After 911, I gave him the benefit of the doubt on some things, because he was the spearhead of the effort to try to re-secure North America.

My basic philosophy has always leaned toward libertarianism, and as much freedom for the individual as can be attained in a numerous and multifaceted society. Economically, I lean toward the capitalist model, but believe in a basic humanitarian safety net.

So, I didn't support George Bush because he was George Bush, or because he was a conservative; I supported him in some things because I agreed with the things he apparently wanted to do.

I didn't agree with him when it came to Katrina, and for me, it was the two ton straw that broke the camel's back.

I continue to support US military activism in the middle east, and the 'war on terror', but this particular president and his administration, imo, are flawed, inept, incompetent. What that means is that even if they decide to do the right things, they will do them badly. IMO, they can't be gone soon enough.
 
Thanks for that JC. I'd been wondering about much the same question as Herman asked you. In an odd sort of way, I'm pleased to discover that I've still got stuff to argue with you about (e.g. US military activism) because frankly, without you to rescue them when they're floundering helplessly, the others around here who support that view aren't very interesting to argue with.
 
Bernie Gunther said:
Thanks for that JC. I'd been wondering about much the same question as Herman asked you. In an odd sort of way, I'm pleased to discover that I've still got stuff to argue with you about (e.g. US military activism) because frankly, without you to rescue them when they're floundering helplessly, the others around here who support that view aren't very interesting to argue with.

Look: just because I don't like seeing black people left to die on their rooftops in an American city, it doesn't mean I'm going to bend over and allow myself to be cornholed by AK47-toting islamofascists.
 
I'm not like the Hal9000: you can't just pull the 'Bush' chip, and have the computer default to the Noam Chomsky program.

What I try to do, is approach everything from a neutral position, and judge it from there, as opposed to viewing everything with an eye as to how it affects my [left or right]wing agenda.

Bernie, I'm a nice guy, really, but we'll still be fighting for years to come, I'm sure.
 
Ann got another one wrong here.

""I don't believe it," seethed Ann Coulter.

Her contempt was directed at a September 25 San Francisco Chronicle story reporting that former NFL star and Army Ranger war hero Pat Tillman, who was killed in Afghanistan last year, believed the US war on Iraq was "f***ing illegal"

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1007-22.htm

A truly awful case where the family were beliberately manipulated for political advantage.

"Mary and the Tillman family are relentlessly pushing for answers to the questions surrounding Pat's death in Afghanistan. They want to know why it took the Pentagon five weeks to tell them he died in a tragic case of friendly fire. They want to know why they were unwitting props at Pat's funeral, weeping while lies were told by eulogizing politicians. Mary is now hoping that a new Pentagon inquiry will bring closure. "There have been so many discrepancies so far that it's hard to know what to believe," she said to the Chronicle. "There are too many murky details." "


Yuk. :mad:
 
Its still not working for me...saying that, I'm more than likely doing a 'vimto' once again so I wouldn't worry about it too much :)
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Even Ann is turning on this lame duck president.

But don't miss the critical point.

Its because he isn't conservative enough.

And its only this one issue.

Now that he's a lame duck president, we need to hold his feet to the fire, and get shit done.
 
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