Animals Count in Euro Elections

[frogwoman]

OK Im sorry if I came across too aggressive. Its just that I feel there is no need for a party that focuses on animal rights - why should I vote for you and not for example the green party?

When humans are having their human rights violated all the time animal rights seems like something of a luxury tbh and certainly not an issue for which a political party should be based around.

 

[dylans]

yes but you could use that argument on solicitors and lawyers who work for corporations rather than people.
or doctors who work with prisoners when they could be working with children etcetcetc
crap argument

Are they promoting a political party based on these issues? No.

Are they standing for the European Parliament? No

Are they asking for my vote. No

Crap argument

 

[liampreston]

Animals Count result - 13,201, below Socialist Labour (13,599) and above Libertas (9.940)

 

[Jean-Luc]

Animals Count result - 13,201, below Socialist Labour (13,599) and above Libertas (9.940)

And not far below No2EU with 13,939. It seems that these two would-be mass parties of the working class are in the same league as the vegans (or is that Vegans?) of Animals Count who want an NHS for animals. Their bombastic claims have been well exploded by this election.

 

[frogwoman]

Erm ...

No2EU 153,236 1.0
(+1.0) 0 0



Could be regional results you're looking at with Animals Count.

 

[Jean-Luc]

You mean that Bob Crow delapidated the RMT's political fund for an average of only 1% of the vote per region! Even Scargill and his SLP did better with 173,115 votes relying solely on a Party Political Broadcast.

 

[dennisr]

You mean that Bob Crow delapidated the RMT's political fund for an average of only 1% of the vote per region! Even Scargill and his SLP did better with 173,115 votes relying solely on a Party Political Broadcast.

Your glee - repeated on various threads - exposes your personal and political bankruptcy rather than eany crime supposedly committed by Bob Crowe, imho

its a bit desperate innit, a bit clutching at straws - not the sort of thing one would expect of a starship captain

 

[Jean-Luc]

its a bit desperate innit, a bit clutching at straws - not the sort of thing one would expect of a starship captain

I'd have thought you were the one clutching at straws, space cadet.

 

[dennisr]

I'd have thought you were the one clutching at straws, space cadet.

No, no - I'm quite content, but thanks for the concern. The CWI have their first MEP - which will be interesting and in the UK they have a strong position in further moves by the RMT and other unions. Hoo hum.

You must be used to disappointment yourself? Any advice? (Apart from the obvious - "stick to petty irrelevancies" - like)

 

[Jean-Luc]

The CWI have their first MEP - which will be interesting and in the UK they have a strong position in further moves by the RMT and other unions. Hoo hum.

CWI? Committe for a Workers International, one of the many Trotskyist Fourth Internationals? Other Trotskyist Fourth Internationals have had MEPs before now, so that's nothing new. Anyway, I though Dave Nellist said he wouldn't take his seat if he'd been elected, so why is Ireland different?

 

[untethered]

By taking a multi-disciplinary, multi-issue approach we can hopefully see the interconnectedness of events and problems which otherwise may appear disparate and unconnected. Animals Count represents an attempt to add one more piece to the jigsaw puzzle which it is hoped can add clarity to some of the social and environmental problems we are all facing...

I imagine the OP has returned to their burrow but I take issue with this entire enterprise.

On this particular point above, Animals Count do a disservice to every other (considerably more) mature political party and group which all act to find the common thread in human woes and build a political programme around that philosophy. AC just seem to be starting from the dogmatic position that animals should have rights and from there flow all kinds of policy prescriptions which it's hoped will have positive effects that most will agree with.

Unfortunately they don't seem to be happy to discuss any of the negative effects of extrapolating from the same starting position. The most obvious of these is that most people though well-disposed towards animals won't tolerate having large parts of their own liberty sacrificed for the supposed rights of animals.

On what principle shouldn't we experiment on animals to alleviate human suffering?