Angela Rayner's time is up

[Karl Masks]

It misses the point to ask whether we have sympathy for Rayner. She was a prominent member of a vile government. Who gives a shit about her personally?

What matters is the effect this has had on the government. Rayner wasn't some left winger holding the govt back from its worst r/w excesses. She was enabling those excesses. And with this shambles there is a chance of a shake-up. Starmer is weakened. Would Creasy have openly questioned the Palestine Action policy were she not now angling for Rayner's job? Would mps be openly talking about Starmer's mistakes?

More of this, please.

More? On some level I'm not so sure. Were this government to collapse it would almost certainly mean Farage wins.

 

[Pickman's model]

More? On some level I'm not so sure. Were this government to collapse it would almost certainly mean Farage wins.

that doesn't follow. the government won't collapse because there is no way that there would be a confidence vote in a reasonably foreseeable future. and even if starmer resigns there would be a leadership election - it's not unheard of as anyone who remembers how cameron, may, johnson and truss departed number 10 will know.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

It misses the point to ask whether we have sympathy for Rayner. She was a prominent member of a vile government. Who gives a shit about her personally?
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I’ve got respect for Rayner but no sympathy. Respect for what she’s had to overcome to get where she had go to but I’ve got zero sympathy for her. She deserved to go.

The recent attempt in some quarters - particularly in the PLP - to lionise Rayner as some kind of working class fighter really sticks in the craw.

Sickening and abysmal adherence to the current neoliberal order is sickening and abysmal whether it’s served up and delivered by someone of privilege or someone off a Manchester council estate.

 

[Wilf]

I feel for her, she's come from nothing and had to fight like hell to get where she is, notwithstanding hers sons severe disability and the right wing press constantly hounding her. She made one mistake. I wish I was her advisor, i'd have told her to come out fighting explain the mistake own it and move on with courage and the fortitude she's shown her whole life. One mistake does mot define who we are. I see George Galloway has recently called her a low life, boils my piss, she was one of the good ones.

And what's your take on her support for Starmer, on Palestine, on the bin strike? The things she's actually done.

 

[GarveyLives]

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What will happen to the £3,550 of 'work clothing' that she accepted "to use while undertaking her duties"?

 

[PTK]

And what's your take on her support for Starmer, on Palestine, on the bin strike? The things she's actually done.

And her kicking Corbyn when he was down.

 

[brogdale]

She's been close enough to power to have some value to the neoliberal corporations who will pay her handsomely to spill some stuff that might help them in their further capture of the state. She'll be fine.

 

[The39thStep]

Imagine my disappointment that it was a different Ange that got the Nottingham Forest job .