Anelka's quenelle

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by where to, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. where to

    where to Well-Known Member

  2. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    You can't patent a hand-salute :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    i was well sickened when he scored too, the celebration was just rubbing it in .
     
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  4. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    What a fucking idiot
     
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  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    fuh quenelle

    also thought he was a wrong un since his turbulent days at arsenal but never thought he was that way inclined
     
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  6. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    Its just as well the west ham fans didnt know what it meant, thered have been a riot .
     
  7. brogdale

    brogdale Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism

    Have to admit I hadn't heard of it till now.

    Mirror article seemed to make sense though.
     
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  8. imposs1904

    imposs1904 Thread Killa'

    Anelka the silly sod tweeted this picture of Obama, Jay Z, Beyonce and some other bloke supposedly doing the quenelle at an Obama fund raiser. Turns out "Jay-Z, Beyonce, President Barack Obama and a supporter [were] brushing the dirt off their shoulders [in] an ode to one of Jay-Z’s hit songs…"

    Anelka needs to step back from twitter. He's not doing himself any favours.
     
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  9. Super rich footballer in right winger schock
     
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  10. MellySingsDoom

    MellySingsDoom Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric

    Same here for me. Anelka seems to be either a blundering idiot at best, or anti-Jewish at worst.

    Here's another footballer making the same gesture:

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    "Earlier in 2013 Montpellier full-back Mathieu Deplagne celebrated a goal against Sochaux by putting his hand to his opposite shoulder.
    The gesture was not widely known at the time and Deplagne was not punished."

    e2a: Here's some futher info on la quenelle: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/quenelle-france-racist?src=spr_TWITTER&spr_id=1456_36858952
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2013
  11. LiamO

    LiamO Well-Known Member

  12. LiamO

    LiamO Well-Known Member

    Can anyone point me to something that shows the point this 'comedian' is actually trying to make rather than the myriad of pieces showing what various interest groups have decided he is trying to make?
     
  13. where to

    where to Well-Known Member

    i heard something before the game about him just playing out his career now, i think his coach was denying this, not sure. if there's anything to this, i wonder whether he's consciously trying to bring forward his retirement (via a ban) or just letting rip with his views if he thinks he's on the final straight.
     
  14. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Official Twitter Liaison Officer

    I have to agree.

    This seems a load of shit...wtf is a reverse nazi salute? Sounds like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever more than what Anelka did. You can't just decide to make up a new nazi salute...only nazis can do that...and sure as fuck Anelka isn't one of them.
     
  15. Fez909

    Fez909 toilet expert

    Oh dear. :facepalm:

    This article gives a bit more information on the connotations of the gesture, along with some background on Dieudonné. After reading that, do you still want to hear his excuses?
     
  16. Lemon Eddy

    Lemon Eddy Disliked by dwyer

    Here's his poster. You work it out:

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  17. caleb

    caleb Well-Known Member

    Fucking hell, is this wilful ignorance? Anelka said it was in tribute this this guy, the guy who invented it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieudonné_M'bala_M'bala

    A man with links across the French far-right whose antisemitism is clear - not just clear, absolutely unashamed.

    Do a quick search for the quenelle being performed and you can find perhaps hundreds of examples of people doing it outside concentration camps, memorials, etc.

    This stuff isn't ambiguous, these guys revel in it.
     
  18. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Official Twitter Liaison Officer

    As a reasonable human being I require a little more to convince me that Anelka...a black Muslim...is a nazi.
     
  19. The Boy

    The Boy danny la rouge is probably wrong.

    The allegation isn't that Anelka is a nazi, it's that he's anti-semitic. Being a black muslim is hardly a defence against the charge.
     
  20. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Maybe it was just accidental. The weather blew his hands in that position. Maybe he thought it was actually anti-discrimination for no reason whatsoever because it would be rubbish.

    For fuck's sake.
     
  21. comrade spurski

    comrade spurski Well-Known Member

    you don't need to be a nazi to be anti jewish though
     
  22. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    As a reasonable human being then obviously you understand that you don't need to be a blood and soil neo-Nazi to hate Jews and that some neo-Nazis and anti-Semitic Muslims have had some time for each other.
     
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  23. Fez909

    Fez909 toilet expert

    :D
     
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  24. caleb

    caleb Well-Known Member

    You were the first one the use the term 'Nazi' in this thread mate, nobody else has been calling him that. Now tell us, how do you think the charge of being an antisemite holds up?
     
  25. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    I hope you had an awful Christmas Dexter.
     
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  26. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    He's mates with the French equivalent of Bernard Manning. Stormtrooper in a teacup. Great goals.
     
  27. where to

    where to Well-Known Member

    you can't agee with a question.
     
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  28. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    overpaid eejit does eejit thing shock. the guy who supports him, the half cameroonian comedian is also connected as a godparent to le pen. confused?
     
  29. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Official Twitter Liaison Officer

    No, the term is used in the link in the OP, mate.
     
  30. caleb

    caleb Well-Known Member

    It's not, or at least not anymore. And if it was, it says a lot about where you are coming from that it's the first thing you decided to pick up on and quibble with "WELL HOW CAN A BLACK MUSLIM BE AN NAZI GUYS!?!!>!". Didn't you think to have a read of the article first to find out, instead of coming on here asking fucking dumb questions?

    Now come on, how do you think the charge of antisemite holds up?
     
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