...and Yemen!

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by chilango, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

  2. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    These protests are supposed to have been organised by the Common Forum opposition - a 'front' of the main Islamist party and the Yemeni Socialist Party - and who were already in talks with Saleh about a peaceful managed (non)change in which they come out on top (doesn't mean that people have turned up to specifically support them or that they can control them though). Going to have to go beyond these people (as are others elsewhere) or they're going to find that democracy is the form in which neo-liberalism is being administered.
     
  3. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Obv. This bit is key. But hasn't it ever been thus everywhere?

    I hope Sudan (North) goes up next. Yemen and Egypt are key neighbours and the Khartoum regime is well ripe for this.
     
  4. JWH

    JWH Fnord Fiesta XR3i

    I'd be a bit worried about Lebanon - worried because "The People" would be fractured along identity lines easier than in the other countries so far. Heartening that Egyptian situation hasn't turned into a pogrom against the Copts, though, isn't it?
     
  5. dennisr

    dennisr the acceptable face

    from socialist world: http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/4804

     
  6. xes

    xes F.O.A.D

  7. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I wonder why press tv would be directing attention away from the middle east at this specific moment in time?
     
  8. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    Anti Copt feeling isn't that strong in Egypt. Certainly not in terms of pogroms etc. The discrimination they have suffered is official discrimination and is tied up very much with Mubarak and the violence against them over Christmas was from tiny Islamist groups who are widely despised in Egypt.
    (There is a thread to be made about Islam in Egypt and its place in the present protests. I will try and write an op for one later.)
     
  9. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie BeRightOn

  10. littleseb

    littleseb littleseb

    Apparently 100000 on the streets of Sana'a, police holding back and being mainly sympathetic with the protesters. No surprise really, as there are more than 70000000 guns in the country...
     
  11. littleseb

    littleseb littleseb

    Saleh decided not to hand over power to his son and not to run for another term in 2013.....interesting times indeed.
     
  12. dennisr

    dennisr the acceptable face

    This is a report from an eyewitness in Tahir Sq yesterday:

    "“I spoke with a number of Copts (Egyptian Christians), who are very numerous among the demonstrators. This is an important symptom. During New Year in Alexandria there was a terrorist bomb attack of a Christian church and this led to a very tense situation in the city and country. The Copts organized demonstrations, demanded security, and even shouted anti-Islamic slogans. But now the situation has been transformed. You can see how, literally over a few days, even hours, the united movement for democratic and social rights has united both Christians and Muslims. Unity in struggle is stripping away all superficial differences. I often see people wearing necklaces with a cross intertwined in a half moon – the symbol of unity between Copts and Muslims. When the church, in the form of the elderly patriarch, came out and publically supported Mubarak, even some of the Copts looked on this as a positive thing, arguing that now the Christians would have less faith in their holy figures and the church as a symbol of authority. "
     
  13. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie BeRightOn

  14. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

  15. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

  16. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    can't see any cops shooting at demonstraters in yemen your not a man unless you have a gun:(
    an armed society may not be polite or safe.
    but if everyobdies on the street the police are not going to try shooting a few demonstraters to frighten people:(
     
  17. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Armed civilians and the use of government thugs are factors in Yemen, but that does not preclude the use of force by police there. In fact it seems they killed at least one today:

     
  18. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Interesting - Yemeni clerics now calling for a 'unity govt' to 'save the country'. Whose unity? How much influence do clerics have? What are their tradtions? Islamist? Quietist? Collaborators?
     
  19. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

    certainly v-anti jihadist,socially prominent,AFAIK not known for heavy political involvement.Also,The shia/sunni split is near 50/50
     
  20. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Ta, not had much time to keep up with events last couple of days - just catching up.
     
  21. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

    Who's in charge of this thread? It's a disgrace.
     
  22. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    They overthrew the moderator and the result was chaos, I blame western do-gooding liberals like yourself :mad:
     
  23. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

    Chaos? Bunch of dolescum sitting on their arses doing nothing from what I can see.

    Whence the confused ambiguous video clips? Whence the c&p tweets? Eh?

    You have let Yemen down.

    (((Yemen)))
     
  24. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    You didn't even want to know Yemen last week. It was all Egypt this, Cairo that..
     
  25. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

    I delegated Yemen and Algeria to you. Check the committee meeting minutes. I have enough with Egypt and Libya to look after.
     
  26. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

  27. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    From the Graun:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/23/yemen-protesters-shot-dead-university

    E2a powerful image of police + locals via 3arabawy

    [​IMG]
     
  28. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Some on-the-ground observations from the pro/anti protests:

     
  29. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Its escalating, heard on the news yesterday about a tribal leader resigning from the ruling party and calling for the president to go. Found an article about this development today:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/27/world/middleeast/27yemen.html

    The reporting on Yemen has a far less hopeful tone than in other places, I assume this is both because Yemen was not exactly stable to start with, how armed the masses are there, and how important a partner in the 'war on terror' the president is considered to be by our governments and press.
     
  30. snakeseare

    snakeseare No arms nor legs

    So how are the anti-government people getting their Qat?
     

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