Anatomy of a police shooting

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by DaveCinzano, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Yesterday morning the Met tweeted about a bunch of people being nicked - one of them being shot into the bargain:

    Seven males arrested, one of whom has been taken to hospital after a police firearm was discharged in area of #Lewisham Road, SE13. The man's condition is not life-threatening. Enquiries continue to establish full circs

    It linked to a press release which revealed that the shooting happened after armed cops had rushed to the scene of a suspected abduction of a woman by a group of armed men:

    Police were called at approximately 03:55hrs on Saturday, 9 February to reports of a male seen in possession of a firearm in the vicinity of Lewisham Road, SE13.

    The caller also raised concerns for the welfare of a woman at an address in Lewisham Road.

    Officers, including armed officers, attended the scene and stopped a vehicle near to the junction with Blackheath Hill.

    A police firearm was discharged.

    One man, believed aged in his 20s, was taken to a south hospital suffering a gunshot injury. His condition is not life-threatening. He has been arrested.

    A further six males have been arrested; five for false imprisonment and one for possession of an offensive weapon.

    Enquiries into the circumstances remain ongoing.

    Road closures remain in place around the scene, which is on the border of Greenwich and Lewisham boroughs.

    The Directorate of Professional Standards and the Independent Office for Police Conduct have been informed.

    You may notice how the author went to great lengths to avoid a normal, straightforward subject-verb-object sentence formulation around the whole bullet-into-human-flesh situation: “A police firearm was discharged...One man...was taken to a south hospital suffering a gunshot injury”, rather than, say, “A police officer shot a suspect”.

    However, by the afternoon - more than 12 hours after it all began - the Met released a second, more refined version, in which they admitted that the suspect had been shot “unintentionally’, and that the putative victim had not been located:

    Detectives are appealing for information and witnesses after police responded to a report of a woman being held against her will by armed men at a south London pub.

    As armed officers responded to the incident, a police firearm was unintentionally discharged and a man sustained a gunshot injury.

    Police were called by a female at approximately 03:55hrs on Saturday, 9 February. The female, who only gave a first name, reported that a woman was being held against her will at the Anchor pub, Lewisham Road, SE13.

    The caller reported that there were a number of male suspects and that a firearm had been seen.

    Officers, including armed officers, attended the scene and stopped a car near to the junction with Blackheath Hill. This car had been driven the short distance from the pub.

    During the vehicle stop, a police firearm was unintentionally discharged. One man - [A] believed to be aged in his 20s - was taken to a south hospital suffering a gunshot injury. His condition has been assessed as not life-threatening or life-changing. The man has been arrested on suspicion of false imprisonment, possession of a firearm and possession of an offensive weapon, but remains in hospital.

    The Directorate of Professional Standards and the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) have been informed. The IOPC have launched an independent investigation into the discharge of the police firearm.

    One other male was arrested from the car.

    Officers attended the Anchor pub where five other males [C to G] were arrested. A search of the pub was conducted, but no female was found.

    Enquiries into the circumstances remain ongoing. At this stage, we are not confirming any further details about police searches or any items found.

    Detectives from South East CID are investigating the reports of a woman being held against her will.

    They are urging the female who called police at around 03:55hrs on Saturday morning from a phone box on Morden Hill, just off Lewisham Road, to make contact again by calling 101 quoting CAD 3359/9Feb.

    Detectives also want to hear from anyone who was in the Anchor pub in the early hours of Saturday morning and from anyone who saw anything suspicious in the area at that time.

    Detective Chief Inspector Stanyer of South East CID said: “Detectives are working hard to fully understand this incident and our enquiries are at an early stage.

    “It is vital that we hear again from the original caller in this case. Officers, including armed police, rightly deployed urgently to the area following her phone call, and this has resulted in a number of searches and seven people being arrested.

    “Whatever the circumstances of the call, it is important that this female calls police again as soon as possible.”

    The story was also picked up by the never-reliable [shurely shome mishtake?] Mark Townsend of the Obbo, amongst others.

    It will be interesting to see how this story develops.
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2019
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  2. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom Patterdale Terrorist

    ACAB

    As if it needs to be said

    Hopefully everyone's ok
     
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  3. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    By Monday the story had slightly moved on, as one can see in the News Shopper's account:

    ...One man <B> has since been charged for allegedly having a "bladed article" and five others have been released.

    ...A man, believed to be in his 20s <A>, was wounded when officers stopped a car that had driven from the pub to near Lewisham Road's junction with Blackheath Hill...[He has since] been discharged from hospital and has been released pending further enquiries.

    ...Police arrested Dilian Collins <B>, of Lucas Street, Deptford, 21, from the car and he has now been charged with possession of a "bladed article". Collins pleaded guilty and has been bailed to be sentenced at Bexley Magistrates' Court on Wednesday (February 20).

    ...Five men <C, D, E, F, G> were arrested in The Anchor, but all have been released under investigation after being questioned on suspicion of false imprisonment...



    Man charged following police shooting suspect after woman 'held captive' at pub
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    Last edited: Feb 13, 2019
  4. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?

    Interesting use of quote marks there :hmm:
     
  5. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    It's just the Shopper directly quoting the word the Met used in their second release
     
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  6. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?

    Yeah I notice that the Shopper says accidentally in the previous sentence, maybe a bit of doublespeak by the Met. As you say, it’ll be interesting to see how this develops.
     
  7. Chilli.s

    Chilli.s changed the little words

    Probly just trying to shoot his hat off as a warning. Standard practice in these situations.
     

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