Anarchy and Jobs?

[leaf]

Hello all

Im in a similar situation and just landed my first full-time job. My thoughts are that having a office type job can be still be a positive in some small way as opposed to staying in education/'lifestylism'; you can dicuss ideas with people who you normally wouldnt come into contact with, and the unions are still good places to meet people who recognise differences of class.

That said, ask me in a couple of months if i still feel so positive...

 

[october_lost]

I think you have the right idea leaf, and I hope you feel welcome on the boards.

 

[Badgers]

World is a bit scary right now isn't it?

I trained to be a chef which is useful but did not take this very far. I have learned to be organised through work and solve problems but am not very practical.

I can't see a revolution happening either

 

[lights.out.london]

I can't see a revolution happening either

You are probably right. But we can dream...

 

[Badgers]

You are probably right. But we can dream...

I wish there was an answer that was workable I just can't see one. A revolution sounds nice but so many things are hanging by a thread that I can see a revolution causing us (and the world) to be left taking a major step back before stepping forward to any semblance of balance......

Currently armies are dispersed all over the world fighting unwinnable wars, NHS is at (or past) breaking point, postal strikes looming and the list just goes on forever!

Maybe the world needs a fallow year?

 

[behemoth]

Currently armies are dispersed all over the world fighting unwinnable wars, NHS is at (or past) breaking point, postal strikes looming and the list just goes on forever!

If you think that is new and grounds for a revolution you must be quite young.

 

[nightbreed]

WHat does everyone do for a living? I'm developing my radical political side at the same time as im trying to work out what the hell to do with my lfie. And theres conflict! Im getting so confused. AFter too mnany years in the isntitutions and getting shiny high grades from all manner of educational systems (up to a postgrad degree.. I need to break into something better but feel totally untrained to do anything good and worhtwhile , and as i develop my political consciousness (anarchy/autonomy/grassroots etc) i find avenues of work semem more and more hypocritical if not downright distatsteful adivce needed! Please help, with either your own experiences or abstract ideas from me. I hope everyone doenst hate me cos I'm a middle class ex-student that took a long time to get here...I want to find a way to practically live and practice my beliefs and all i know how to do is write essays and skive off at my boring office job. love x

You are obviously a person of great social conviction, seeking revolution and the replacement of capitalism with a fairer non class based system.

How about getting a job with the low paid ,maybe as a cleaner/janitor or in a warehouse as a forklift truck driver. Work with and assist people less fortunate than you, who a socialist future would benefit, and then organise them in a union.

Its a good start.

 

[riglet]

Isn't it anarchy OR jobs?

 

[In Bloom]

Isn't it anarchy OR jobs?

No, it isn't.

 

[Nixon]

I think this is quite a good thread.I've been sorta thinking the same questions in my head.The anarchists i've known have been either cycle couriers,social workers (or in training),chefs,healers or other crap ok paid jobs.They only support themselves.

 

[Prince Rhyus]

I think this is quite a good thread.I've been sorta thinking the same questions in my head.The anarchists i've known have been either cycle couriers,social workers (or in training),chefs,healers or other crap ok paid jobs.They only support themselves.

I'm surprised more don't go into things like teaching or other careers where they can meet lots of different people and really go to town with their message.

It's like with the socialists I met during my uni and trade union rep days. (I'm hoping to get involved again soon once I'm settled here). They tend to stay too much within their comfort zone or preach to a converted audience without really getting involved with people outside of the "usual suspects".

 

[In Bloom]

I'm surprised more don't go into things like teaching or other careers where they can meet lots of different people and really go to town with their message.

It's funny you should say that, because IME, education is one industry where class struggle anarchists are (relatively) strongly concentrated. Quite a lot of members of the organised groups (AF, SolFed and IWW particularly) are teachers or university lecturers.

It doesn't hurt that we're all a bunch of middle class students and public school boys, either

 

[samk]

It's funny you should say that, because IME, education is one industry where class struggle anarchists are (relatively) strongly concentrated. Quite a lot of members of the organised groups (AF, SolFed and IWW particularly) are teachers or university lecturers.

It doesn't hurt that we're all a bunch of middle class students and public school boys, either

It doesn't seem to be doing a good job of spreading the message to the outside world, tho.

 

[In Bloom]

It doesn't seem to be doing a good job of spreading the message to the outside world, tho.

Meh, if I wanted to spread the word, I'd join the Jesuits.

 

[northernhord]

Isn't it anarchy OR jobs?

It can be one or both depending on your views.

 

[terratech]

Hiya All... saw this site where the guy is just trying to get at the issues you are talking about... Work, Welfare And Poverty... hes just started it so give him a chance , its called the RAW RAP

Anyway What happened to Precarity?

 

[butchersapron]

Looks good - thanks.