Anarchism and the individual

[bluestreak]

'anarchy' means a state with no government, no rules, and no coercion

'anarchism' means to me the beliefs of a bunch of people who don't know what 'anarchy' means (and who just love getting beaten up by truncheons)

So you don't have a fucking clue then. Why not piss off and stop making yourself a) hated; and b) look like an ignorant arrogant nob, do some reading of anarchist theory, ask some questions and learn rather than tell people wrongly what they think.

Why not start a reading list thread, asking people where to begin. Then debate the issues as you come across them?

 

[Dillinger4]

*adds anarchism to the massive list of things max_freakout is clueless about*

 

[max_freakout]

how do you know that this is what 'anarchy' and 'anarchism' means though max? really? define a label for me please.

the definition of 'anarchy' came from the dictionary


the definition of 'anarchism' came from my own seething bitterness towards people who reckon they are 'anarchists' but who don't seem to realise what 'anarchy' actually means (ie people who envision an 'anarchist secret police' to gun down paedophiles, and suchlike)

 

[bluestreak]

the definition of 'anarchism' came from my own seething bitterness towards people who reckon they are 'anarchists' but who don't seem to realise what 'anarchy' actually means (ie people who envision an 'anarchist secret police' to gun down paedophiles)

Link please?

 

[the button]

Link please?

Probably me in post #54 on this thread.

 

[max_freakout]

yep

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=7574497&postcount=54

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

the definition of 'anarchy' came from the dictionary


the definition of 'anarchism' came from my own seething bitterness towards people who reckon they are 'anarchists' but who don't seem to realise what 'anarchy' actually means (ie people who envision an 'anarchist secret police' to gun down paedophiles, and suchlike)

you do this so often i.e. refer to the dictionary when pushed to explain your meaning. max, the world isn't what you read about, its what you experience and therefore, learn to develop your own thinking. you're talking nonsense again unhappily. what does anything mean?

 

[max_freakout]

so some 'anarchists' seem to think that 'anarchy' is oppressive coercion (at least of paedophiles)

 

[Dillinger4]

Max cant go beyond the dictionary.

 

[max_freakout]

refer to the dictionary when pushed to explain your meaning.

if we cannot use a dictionary to confirm what we mean by particular words, then we are not speaking the same language as each other

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

if we cannot use a dictionary to confirm what we mean by particular words, then we are not speaking the same language as each other

yet you proclaim not to believe any truth that is put in front of you? you're a maelstrom of muddled contradiction max. i'm glad we don't speak the same language tbh.

 

[Dillinger4]

He doesn't even use the same language, just his own twisted cult version, with its closed belief system.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

He doesn't even use the same language, just his own twisted cult version, with its closed belief system.

prove what you say is true. or not true. or somewhere inbetween.

 

[cesare]

Why not start a reading list thread, asking people where to begin.

I started a reading list thread for them iirc, but it got binned.

 

[max_freakout]

I started a reading list thread for them iirc, but it got binned.

then someone else started one, and nobody posted on it

 

[cesare]

yep

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=7574497&postcount=54

lol

He did it on purpose you twit.

 

[max_freakout]

double post

 

[max_freakout]

you're a maelstrom of muddled contradiction max.

that is by far the most accurate statement about my self that i have ever read on urban

 

[cesare]

that is by far the most accurate statement about my self that i have ever read on urban

Predictable unpredictability. Someone said that about me once, when I was in my teens. I was quite proud of it for a while.

 

[bluestreak]

yep

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=7574497&postcount=54

Number one: it seems like the button was being sarky.

Number two: Even if he wasn't, I didn't mean a link in which one anarchist advocated such thing, I meant a link in which it was clear that majority anarchist thought believes in such things.

 

[max_freakout]

it was clear that majority anarchist thought believes in such things.

that is exactly my point, the 'majority of anarchists' don't even seem to understand what 'anarchy' actually means

 

[cesare]

that is exactly my point, the 'majority of anarchists' don't even seem to understand what 'anarchy' actually means

If the 'majority of anarchists don't even seem to understand what anarchy actually means' - have you ever considered that it might be you that doesn't understand what it means, rather than them?

 

[max_freakout]

If the 'majority of anarchists don't even seem to understand what anarchy actually means' - have you ever considered that it might be you that doesn't understand what it means, rather than them?

anarchy is, very simply, a state with no government, no rules, and no coercion



but try telling that to an 'anarchist' and then asking them how they would deal with paedophiles

 

[cesare]

anarchy is, very simply, a state with no government, no rules, and no coercion



but try telling that to an 'anarchist' and then asking them how they would deal with paedophiles

You're clueless.

 

[cesare]

You've come up with your own definition of 'anarchy', refuse to understand what 'anarchism' means - and then wonder why the majority of anarchists will just look at you in a bemused manner.

 

[max_freakout]

You've come up with your own definition of 'anarchy',

that definition comes from the english dictionary, it is *the* definition not mine


do you have an alternative definition? (specifically, one which allows for the existence of secret police to gun down paedophiles?)

 

[butchersapron]

Worst discussion of anarchism ever - and that's saying something on here.

 

[cesare]

that definition comes from the english dictionary, it is *the* definition not mine


do you have an alternative definition? (specifically, one which allows for the existence of secret police to gun down paedophiles?)

You carry on believing what you want.

 

[cesare]

Worst discussion of anarchism ever - and that's saying something on here.

Can't even past basic principles, cos max has decided on a different set of basic principles.

 

[butchersapron]

Actually, if you search max_freakout's other posts on anarchism on here...

anarchist-communism is a silly meaningless contradiction, a total misunderstanding of 'anarchy'