an electromagnetic pulse attack on the usa could kill 90% of americans

[bubblesmcgrath]

Nuclear EMP attack is a bit far-flung.
A solar storm along the lines of the Carrington Event, however? Well that's a really quite scary proposition for modern civilisation.

I'm so glad I bought six doughnuts in lidl on my way home from work.

I figure any Irish person descended from survivors of the famine is designed to store fat for emergencies......I believe I'm a genetically enhanced economy model as I cant lose weight even on 800 cals a day and walking 5km a day.

So roll on the emp..

 

[camouflage]

EMP attacks don't *rely* on nukes anyway do they? I thought there were more conventional methods.

The EMP is part of the detonation, the front of a shockwave of energy.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

I figure any Irish person descended from survivors of the famine is designed to store fat for emergencies......I believe I'm a genetically enhanced economy model as I cant lose weight even on 800 cals a day and walking 5km a day.

So roll on the emp..

Yeah, but us Celts aren't notoriously great at coping with even the normal rays from the sun, are we?

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Yeah, but us Celts aren't notoriously great at coping with even the normal rays from the sun, are we?

Brolly.......everyone has one due to ridiculous amounts of rain ...

 

[Corax]

The EMP is part of the detonation, the front of a shockwave of energy.

In a nuclear detonation? Yes. That's not really what I asked though - or what I intended to ask at any rate

 

[camouflage]

In a nuclear detonation? Yes. That's not really what I asked though - or what I intended to ask at any rate

Ah, my bad- just realized what you meant.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

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[Sprocket.]

This is what happens by relying on technology and losing basic life skills.
See, the Luddites did have good argument!

 

[camouflage]

This is what happens by relying on technology and losing basic life skills.
See, the Luddites did have good argument!

Not really. 90 percent or something of people alive today would not exist if it were not for petrochems and the electric power that makes our current level of societal complexity (food production, transport, logistics, communication, industry, water treatment, disease control etc) possible.

 

[Sprocket.]

Not really. 90 percent or something of people alive today would not exist if it were not for petrochems and the electric power that makes our current level of societal complexity (transport, logistics, communication, industry, water treatment, disease control etc) possible.

T'was a joke old bean.

 

[camouflage]

T'was a joke old bean.

oh.

 

[Sprocket.]

oh.

Sorry.

 

[weltweit]

I thought a nuclear explosion produced an EMP pulse..

Is there an EMP device which doesn't include a nuclear explosion?

 

[Sprocket.]

I thought a nuclear explosion produced an EMP pulse..

Is there an EMP device which doesn't include a nuclear explosion?

I'm not sure, the US maybe, but I guess after that report someone will be trying desperately.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If you kill the head American, all the others die too.

But who would want to kill Oprah?

 

[19sixtysix]

Build your own weapon instructions here http://gbppr.dyndns.org/PROJ/mil/emp/index.html

You now need all the geeks in the usa to build one and set it off at the same time.

 

[camouflage]

I thought a nuclear explosion produced an EMP pulse..

Is there an EMP device which doesn't include a nuclear explosion?

I found detailed instructions on the internet for how to build a small non-nuclear EMP Device:
http://www.wikihow.com/Build-an-EMP-Generator

I imagine scaling things up and dumping MOAR power into it in low Earth orbit can be used to Ug-ify a reasonably advanced society.

 

[butchersapron]

I found detailed instructions on the internet for how to build a small non-nuclear EMP Device:
http://www.wikihow.com/Build-an-EMP-Generator

I imagine scaling things up and dumping MOAR power into it in low Earth orbit can be used to Ug-ify a reasonably advanced society.

Expect a knock on the door.

 

[doddles]

EMP attacks don't *rely* on nukes anyway do they? I thought there were more conventional methods.

 

[19sixtysix]

This book has plans for an EMP generator

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-...r=1-1&keywords=electronic+gadgets+evil+genius

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

But who would want to kill Oprah?

That's all a ruse. The head American is in a nest under the Rocky Mountains.

 

[8ball]

Before this turns into a lolmericafest, Britain is no less vulnerable.

True, but if you land a killer blow on America, lackeys like Britain suddenly become a lot less dangerous.

 

[likesfish]

Just one little problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio-class_submarine

24 trident missiles will ruin your day and chances there will be up to a 100 plus each with up to 8 mirvs seeking revenge plus cruise missiles carriers and anericas over blown military based somewhere else going berserk.

 

[Dr Jon]

I thought a nuclear explosion produced an EMP pulse..

Is there an EMP device which doesn't include a nuclear explosion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse#Characteristics_of_nuclear_EMP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse_.28NNEMP.29

The range of NNEMP weapons (non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse bombs) is much less than nuclear EMP. Nearly all NNEMP devices used as weapons require chemical explosives as their initial energy source, producing only 10−6 (one millionth) the energy of nuclear explosives of similar weight. The electromagnetic pulse from NNEMP weapons must come from within the weapon, while nuclear weapons generate EMP as a secondary effect.

 

[TitanSound]

IIRC an EMP attack is from a nuclear weapon detonated in low earth orbit - the EMP is the burst of radiation from the detonation itself, it is defined as the radiation emitted in the first few milliseconds. The low earth orbit means less energy deploys in blast and other affects.
The area affected is at least partially determined by the interactions with the earth's magnetic field.

The book "Dragon" by Clive Cussler covers this subject well.

 

[8ball]

Just one little problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio-class_submarine

24 trident missiles will ruin your day and chances there will be up to a 100 plus each with up to 8 mirvs seeking revenge plus cruise missiles carriers and anericas over blown military based somewhere else going berserk.

Assuming they have the faintest idea where to point them or what they are doing.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Just one little problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio-class_submarine

Why did they name a submarine after a landlocked state?

 

[likesfish]

Assuming they have the faintest idea where to point them or what they are doing.

I guess they will be able to figure that out with craptons of assets not in the US abd the rest of the world rather unhappy to say the least

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Why did they name a submarine after a landlocked state?

I'm just grateful they haven't started naming them after corporations like they've done with sports arenas.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm just grateful they haven't started naming them after corporations like they've done with sports arenas.

Limited PR value in it I suppose.

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