American Beauty: Crap/Not Crap

[andy2002]

Only seen it the once (when it first came out) but remember really enjoying it. Not crap, then...

 

[El Jefe]

So anyone who dares to disagree with you is a pretentious twat?

Apparently, according to Awesome Wells, the reason Left Turn Clyde doesn't like the ending of Return of the King is because he doesn't understand it.

 

[The Groke]

So you're saying my viewpoint on this movie is a subjective one? Fuck, that hadn't occurred to me. <goes for lie-down>

heh.




Give up dude - you will just make yourself crazy with this endlessly repeated argument....

 

[Iam]

Aaah.

 

[The Groke]

is it wrong that I find that image ever so slightly arousing?

 

[Flashman]

Is that GG Allin's cock and bush?

I liked the "cunt" in the filum but was bored by the rest.

 

[Iam]

is it wrong that I find that image ever so slightly arousing?

Is that GG Allin's cock and bush?

You two are so fucking wrong...!

 

[MightyAphrodite]

Yeh first time I watched it it blew me away, second time was watchable, but now I just don't care about it. I don't think it's lived the test of time like other films of it's era have.

I agree with Zenie.

Not a timeless film, won't be remembered in 20 years as a great piece of cinematography. Just in the 99p bin at your local tescos or whatever.

Which makes it crap when it's all said and done.


( i love it when it 1st came out, thought oh, groundbreaking blah blah,...but it aint, its just cack really...)

 

[electrogirl]

I agree with Zenie.

Not a timeless film, won't be remembered in 20 years as a great piece of cinematography. Just in the 99p bin at your local.

Which makes it crap when it's all said and done.


( i love it when it 1st came out, thought oh, groundbreaking blah blah,...but it aint, its just cack really...)

yup. all this.

i feel this way about 'lost in translation' too.

 

[toblerone3]

that's debatable..........my viewpoint.........my opinion

Sorry thats not good enough! Can't you stop being subjective and start being objective!

 

[Awesome Wells]

Fuck me, are you going to carry on your pathetic hissyfit on the LOTR thread to this one as well?

Tell me what the "just because" is that's causing me to thumb my nose then, brainiac

you are quite tedious.

 

[Awesome Wells]

So anyone who dares to disagree with you is a pretentious twat?

Charming.

Cockface.

That isn't remotely what I said. Try again.

 

[El Jefe]

you are quite tedious.

No actual response then?

 

[Awesome Wells]

No actual response then?

Why would I waste my time?

 

[El Jefe]

Why would I waste my time?

Well, that's your call

But I think it speaks volumes, personally

 

[Iam]

That isn't remotely what I said. Try again.

Hardly close to worth the effort, I'm afraid.

Tantrum was funny, though, so a bonus point for that.

 

[Hi-ASL]

Not crap.

 

[Detroit City]

never saw it RD

 

[Hi-ASL]

Wait, I'll say more.

Good - very - but not great. Well-written, superbly-acted.

Very, very enjoyable on its own terms without being particularly 'meaningful'. If it was a message film I'm unsure what the message was.

 

[little edge]

Well, I enjoyed it so I am voting 'not crap'


Fuck me your majesty

 

[Gavin Bl]

It knocked me out the first time I saw it, but it does start to look weaker on repeated viewing, but still really well executed - I'll have to defer to more filmic types as to whether it is derivative, but not crap.

 

[panpete]

its funny

 

[scifisam]

I kinda enjoyed it, but that's all. Not terrible, not brilliant, just OK.

 

[gentlegreen]

It sounds dreadful - but then it's a mainstream film made in the past 20 years and has the words "American" and "Beauty" in the title.

 

[Rainingstairs]

Since it seems to have inspired so much debate on the other thread...

I have to admit it's a long time since I saw it, and it blew me away at the time, but that said, I've watched a hell of a lot more indie type films since then, and I'm not sure if I would be quite so impressed by it now. But I'm still going to go for 'not crap'...

Argh bollocks - forgot to tick 'poll'.

I thought it was fabulous first time, and maybe even up till the 10th time I saw it. But it's just one of those flicks that just keep reappearing and reappearing in my life and I don't know why...same with that Sean Connery one "The Rock"

 

[Hi-ASL]

It sounds dreadful - but then it's a mainstream film made in the past 20 years and has the words "American" and "Beauty" in the title.

That's what I thought! The title put me off viewing it for years. I thought it was going to be about some ex-beauty queen or something who discovers previously-untapped reserves of inner-strength when she contracts syphilis.

It's not though. Watch it. It's very good.

 

[Left]

Thought it was great when it came out, but I was pretty young.

It's shit for reasons already explained.

 

[obanite]

I like it

Not all films have to be 'brave' enough to have a 'message', do they?

 

[Hi-ASL]

I think it was marketed as a message film that says something profound about American society. Passed me by if that was the intention though.

 

[Groucho]

I think it was marketed as a message film that says something profound about American society. Passed me by if that was the intention though.

It did. It said that American society is not absoloutely perfect in every respect. That caused a major controversy.