china is so big tho, they could invade bits of china, but it would be impossible to actually beat them in a war
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china is so big tho, they could invade bits of china, but it would be impossible to actually beat them in a war
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gaslit at scale.
True, and by the way I don't think it's the end of the world either (well, assuming they don't do anything stupid), really it's just the usual turn of the wheel.
Thats why I said on paper, they'd use their overwhelming air and naval superiority and proxy forces if they've got any sense.
Plenty of people have conquered China in the past btw, they've usually ended up getting assimilated in the end though.
i was talking about this with my brother before, and how everyone creams over obama, but really it's just the fact that he's quite clever and charming and seems to be able to do his job
this is what we should expect. it shouldn't be amazing that the fucking president of america is pretty clever and charming
this is what we should expect. it shouldn't be amazing that the fucking president of america is pretty clever and charming
japan spent about 10 years in china and they could have spent another 10 years and gotten no further
i know how poncy this sounds by the way, but china isn't a country in the way we understand countries
Yuwipi Woman
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Don't have to invade them to make a big stink about Taiwan.
The Mongols and Manchus are two groups who very succesfully conquered China off the top of my head.
Yuwipi Woman
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The big problem with the "on paper" theory is that the US military is already overcommitted elsewhere.
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Besides, the only way to pay for it is if China floats us a loan....
yeah but china was a lot smaller in those days
mongolia and manchuria are now provinces of china
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they don't really have much of a leg to stand on considering their behaviour tho
It wasnt particularly smaller when the Manchus conquered, not sure of the size when the Mongols attacked but considering they conquered nearly all of Asia north of the Himalayas what wasnt China then but is now ended up under their rule.
Yuwipi Woman
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I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by this.
america making a fuss about china treating a country unfairly with their record of invading countries to make cash for their own economy
the idea of america making a moral stance about anything is laughable to everyone outside of america
it's one of those 'would be funny if it wasn't true' things like when japan or england say 'sorry about the last 200 years' to all the poor countries
Yuwipi Woman
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It's not a moral stand. We have a mutual defense treaty with Taiwan.
Anyone who thinks that morality is a guiding factor in politics is naive.
Haven't come across this used as a verb before. How would you define it?
Yuwipi Woman
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Yuwipi Woman
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Basically, just moving onto a property and redesigning it to suit your needs and maximize self-sufficiency. You can "homestead" in a city too. (That theory might explain the letters I get from the Neighborhood Association).
Could be a place for some kind of squatting-based new fing in the USA or something...
Johnny Canuck3
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No; but did you ever say the same things about Bush, and in the final analysis, maybe Obama gets on your tits, but it's an improvement over how things were.
Maybe Obama is bailing people out: Bush was always thinking of ways of spending the money via the expenditure of bombs and bullets and human lives.
Johnny Canuck3
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I think it's the exact opposite. China doesn't want to piss off its debtor, the US, out of fear that it will default on all those big loans.
It's the old saying, if you owe the bank 5000 and you can't or won't pay, you've got a problem. If you owe the bank 5000000000000 and you can't or won't pay, the bank has a problem.
Yuwipi Woman
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I think I've said fairly often that I thought Bush was a complete and utter fuckwit. Just because this one isn't is no reason to give him a free pass on criticism. In fact, I think it sets the bar a bit higher.
Johnny Canuck3
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That's fair enough. But sometimes this early criticism of Obama seems like a group of people exiting out of an eight year trek through an unlit tunnel, only to emerge and complain that there is a light rain falling.
Yuwipi Woman
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I gave him 100 days before I started assessing his job performance. I'm not one of those who was blaming him for everything in the universe before he actually took office. TBH, he can only be an improvement on the previous model.
Oswaldtwistle
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That's pretty much what we thought about Blair
And in some ways he was, but not by much
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