Amazon Go (cashier less shops)

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  1. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank We kill the flame

    Revelation, Chapter 13:

    And the beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, to receive a mark on their right hand or their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name.…
     
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  2. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank We kill the flame

    I trade only in favours, spices, fine wines and nazi gold.
     
  3. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    I’ve not seen this. Do you live down in ‘that London’?
     
  4. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    It’s clean due to the sheer numbers of people kissing it.

    Though there is a fair risk of glandular fever.
     
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  5. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    I do. In many pubs now staff automatically hold the machine out to you.

    Most cashless place I've been in was Wroclaw in Poland. I paid cash in a restaurant and they had to dig out a metal tin from under the counter especially for me.
     
  6. toblerone3

    toblerone3 Grrrrr

    There is no reason why cashier-less shops should lead to increased income inequality. That is the result of the system layered on top of these innovations. Could equally be part of productivity gains under socialism or communism.
     
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  7. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Scanning barcodes and queueing is well last century though. I welcome such advances.
     
  8. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    Unless I've been paying a food bill, I can't recall ever paying by card in a pub.

    Although, perhaps I should, so I can pick-up some Clubcard points & piss off SpookyFrank. :thumbs:
     
  9. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    I always do now. It's quicker, and you don't end up with a mountain of change in your pocket at the end of the night.
     
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  10. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Change is handy - it allows you to pay for more things more precisely.
     
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  11. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Change is bollocks. It falls out of pockets and scratches up phone screens/sunglasses.

    Cashless FTW.
     
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  12. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    I have pockets deep enough for change not to drop out, phone & sunglasses (not worn at the time) are always in cases, and not in the same pockets as change anyway.

    I think you're doing life wrong. :p
     
  13. joustmaster

    joustmaster offcumdun

    Nothing more annoying than being caught behind people in pubs insisting on paying in cash.
     
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  14. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Am I heck as like. Coins are rubbish. Needless, weighty, pocket-burdening, and fondled by hundreds of randoms. In an age of contactless plastic cards they are a relic of a bygone age.
     
  15. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    If that happens you are pretty much fucked anyway as instead they can walk you to a ATM and withdraw your card max. Didn’t some bunch hold a guy four or five days to march him down each day?
     
  16. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Is that true?
    Great news! :cool:

    I’ll be paying in coppers from now on.

    Payback for all the time I spent waiting behind those ‘early adopter’ cunts while the chip&pin machine spent an age dialling up the bank, printing their receipt etc.
     
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  17. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    The only thing that sounds appealing about this Amazon store is the opportunity to play shoplifter.
     
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  18. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    If your being tracked by your face it sounds like they will be able to keep tabs on you far better then a conventional supermarket.

    Besides no checkout staff does not mean no security.
     
  19. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    That's why it would be playing - the novelty of being able to stroll around a supermarket stuffing things in your bag and pockets then walking straight out would probably be amusing, at least for one visit. Especially if I had a cold and happened to be mid-sneeze while picking up some of the more expensive items.
     
  20. S☼I

    S☼I Are they supposed to be as sick as you and me?

    I hate the idea. I don't have contactless (although I'm sure I'll be railroaded into it at some point) and I can't use scab tills.

    I like cash just so I don't spend too much money. Using a card in a pub is a terrifying prospect.
     
  21. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    This is the whole point of contactless.
     
  22. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    You probably already have contactless-enabled cards.

    With my bank, the first wave of them had the capability but then had to be "set up" for contactless use. (By performing some procedure at an ATM I think; I never did it). But the next lot were ready to go, so I requested non enabled cards. It wasn't a problem.

    The reason I don't like the ready-to-go ones is that cashiers thinking they're doing you a favour can tap the card on the reader for you. This happened to my elder daughter in my presence. She was annoyed but it had gone through, so she didn't ask to reverse it.
     
  23. nuffsaid

    nuffsaid But this goes up to 11

    Change eats holes in your pockets. I stopped putting change in my pockets when I realised the only reason I was buying new jeans was the bloody pockets had holes in from carrying change.

    I'm happy with contactless or the new Amazon gimmick but I'm never taking Satan's chip! Which is a worry as we will all be required to soon.

    It's going to be a tough choice, take Satan's chip and end up with a grievous sore 'Rev. 16:11 a loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.' Probably due to the constant scanning having some effect that wasn't foreseen or leaky lithium batteries they'll be installed with. Anyway cancer in your hand/forehead...Or join the rebellion and live in underground groups fighting the system, sound fun? Not when I was hoping to retire to the easy life....typical this would happen just as I'm hoping to checkout of the rat race...:mad:
     
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  24. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    What's the difference between using it or not if the card is already enabled to do so?
     
  25. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    My daughter? She didn't want to use it. She wanted her transactions to be chip and PIN.
     
  26. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    But why. Just to annoy the people behind her or a deeper reason :confused:
     
  27. sealion

    sealion Well-Known Member

    How is she annoying the people behind her ?
     
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  28. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    Well, she lives in Aberdeen and isn't here to ask. But I think it's because she wanted the reassurance of being in control of verifying her transactions.

    I don't use contactless, but don't have enabled cards. If people are annoyed by the time it takes for me to in tap 4 digits then they really need to work on their anger issues.
     
  29. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    I'm just confused why someone would use a slower process when they already have the tech that's quicker.

    I mean I can understand that someone may be concerned about the security implications of contactless and having your card nicked, but if it's already enabled then that's out the window.
     
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  30. sealion

    sealion Well-Known Member

    Beacause they have the right to. I use cash only but still have to wait behind people faffing about with cards, not that i would let it ruin my day as it's only a couple of seconds.
     
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  31. BemusedbyLife

    BemusedbyLife Well-Known Member

    The article in the Guardian has a photo of the entrance, there are barriers like on the Tube and you have to present your smartphone to them to let you in, I guess the computer then ties your image up to that phone and tracks you with the cameras. If you were planning on shoplifting you would have to leap the barrier on the way in, grab some shit and leap the barrier on the way out plus you would probably need to deck the 2 dudes in the orange tops stood by the door greeting people if they tried to stop you, it's a lot of effort to nick some groceries.
    I'm not so sure about this face recognition tech though it's not overly reliable., the auto passport ones at the airport only work if you stare at them straight for a bit, so I wonder if this thing builds a composite image since they can't guarantee you'd be looking full at the camera. so maybe you might be able to fool it by wearing sunglasses and then taking them off or taking your jacket off.
    What happens when you've got a kid with you and they run around grabbing stuff? My mum tells me that I used to drive her nuts as a kid by putting stuff in the shopping trolley withour her knowing.
     
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