Wow, friendly suggestion?, sounds like I am being told off in subtext language, no I wont bundle all the allotment theads together cos I aint got time and a lot of the many posters like it the way I do it, it doesnt stop other people posting stuff, if other people post stuff and it aint interesting then it will slide down the boards, if its interesting then ragardless of how many posts i make it will stay near the top.