All the big trees next to Carlton Mansions (by Somerleyton Road) have just been cut down

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

    He, by seize the day you mean profit obscenely? ;)

    I'd want to see the deal...must be online somewhere...
     
  2. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Didn't you go to the Planning Committee. Forget when it was - a few years ago.
    It was a bit controversial because the proposal had limited "affordable" housing. But as you will know this can always be whittled down by a feasibility study.

    Please note the planning application was approved by Lambeth before Sadiq Khan's fast track system was introduced.

    As regards blocking the sale of land from one capitalist entrepreneur to another - when was that ever on the cards - even under Corbyn (should he come to power which seems unlikely given his paralysis on votes of confidence etc).

    [Edited to note: - that planning permission only applies to the factory units used currently by the wholesale fish mongers. The Angela Davis Industrial Estate (now flattened) belongs to the council, as does the land between 16 Somelryton Road and Coldharbour Lane. Unfortunately Lambeth's inefficiency in serving a CPO order on the Frozen Fish distributor has left their development (or Brixton Green's if you consider it so) to have a big gap in it.]
     
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  3. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    I think you should perhaps read the thread on these boards about Brixton Green to see how full of shit they are. They're a bunch of proven liars.

    Brixton Green withdraws allegations made against Brixton Buzz but offers up no explanation or apology

    http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2015/05/...s-locked-out-of-community-project-in-brixton/

    Southwyck House residents angered as Brixton Green unilaterally claim support
     
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  4. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Your not listening.

    Im trying to state the facts.

    This is Council led project. They will hold the debt. The financial risk will be taken by Lambeth council.

    Its not about whether I like Brixton green or not.

    Lambeth will raise finance for the scheme. Not Brixton Green.

    Which bit of this don't you understand?
     
  5. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

    Thanks for explaining! I wasn't suggesting BG had raised finances though.

    BG look dodgy as fuck, no doubt about that. I was more interested in the administrative charity taking rents (not the council it would seem) and the social rent housing quota, if that's been maintained from planning to build.
     
  6. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    32 pages of Brixton Green internet beef to enjoy here.

    Brixton Somerleyton Road development and Brixton Green - funding, proposed rents etc
     
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  7. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

    It's exactly the type of housing that is needed. And, I'd argue the only housing *needed*. Plenty of flats being built for sale or private rent.
     
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  8. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

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  9. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    I've been in meetings with Brixton Green and their plans literally change in front of your eyes. I wouldn't trust them to run a bath.
     
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  10. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    As others have said, social housing is exactly what's needed. There's a lot of private development going on, some of it at the expense of those needing social housing.
     
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  11. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    It's astonishing that anyone who lives and cares about the area can think any different.
     
  12. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Some gentrifiers think this is all good.
     
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  13. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    I guess all that adjacent upmarket private development healthily increases the value of their properties, whereas social housing being built nearby may give a less favourable return.
     
  14. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Only if the development is done to a reasonable standard, poorly executed developments won't increase in value as much. Communities need social housing to support all sorts of people, and the community itself is enriched. It may not be an increase in monetary terms, but then that's all some people think about, missing the wider points about social housing.
     
  15. ChrisSouth

    ChrisSouth Well-Known Member

    Nice use of the false dilemma fallacy
     
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  16. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    I thought he made his opinion on what housing is needed in the area very clear. And it's an opinion I strongly disagree with. How about you?
     
  17. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    I couldn't agree more but with more and more gated communities rising up and turning Brixton into a two-tier society, it's a philosophy that seems to be going out of fashion.
     
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  18. ChrisSouth

    ChrisSouth Well-Known Member

    I was puzzled by the logical argument. If they live in the area, but think differently, do they somehow stop living in the area?
     
  19. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    For someone hung up on logic, you're taking quite an artistic spin on what I actually said and clearly meant, but whatever. Thanks for your wonderful contribution to this discussion.
     
  20. ChrisSouth

    ChrisSouth Well-Known Member

    Because people may have a different view from you, it doesn't mean they don't live in the area or don't care about the area.
     
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  21. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    I really have no idea why you're pursuing this frankly odd point which you've clearly misunderstood from the very start, but how about we all move on now?
     
  22. Marka17

    Marka17 New Member

    Hello all, happy Christmas Eve. Been meaning to sign up to here to ask a question on this. Noticed the tree's chopped down for the theatre development. Does anyone know if the row of trees, around 10 in all, that run down Somerleyton Road are protected from future development? It would be criminal if they were chopped down too.
     
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  23. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    There's some sort of fuzzy tree like structures in the CGI mockups for the development but I doubt if that adds up to much.

    [​IMG]

    Future Brixton: Somerleyton Road redevelopment scheme report released
     
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  24. Mr Bim of Bar

    Mr Bim of Bar Well-Known Member

  25. Mr Bim of Bar

    Mr Bim of Bar Well-Known Member

    The hoarding is now up at Carlton Masions so looks like the Theartre build will start Shortly.
     
  26. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Yes I took pics last night. They're taking quite a chunk out of the pavement outside Carlton Mansions.
     
  27. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    There's a Landscape Proposals section of the Design Statement, showing exactly which trees will be retained/removed. 6 trees will be removed on CHL pavement, 2 retained and 4 new ones will be planted. The 2 "missing" trees would obstruct the entrance to the theatre.

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    All but 3 of the large mature trees on Somerleyton Road will be retained.
     
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  28. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

  29. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    Anyone know what happened to that Volkswagen Beetle someone found on the site ?
     
  30. ChrisSouth

    ChrisSouth Well-Known Member

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