Alex Salmond accused of sexual misconduct.

Discussion in 'Scotland/Alba' started by Sasaferrato, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    'Two people have made complaints against former first minister Alex Salmond, who denies ever sexually harassing anyone.

    His successor, Nicola Sturgeon, said the complaints were made in January and were investigated through a process she had agreed to.

    She said the situation was "difficult for me to come to terms with" given her long history with Mr Salmond, but the claims "could not be ignored".

    Mr Salmond told BBC Scotland he was "no saint" and has "got flaws".

    He added: "I have made many mistakes in my life, political and personal.

    "But I have not sexually harassed anyone and I certainly have not been engaged in criminality."

    He also insisted that a new complaints procedure introduced by the Scottish government last year following wider concerns about harassment at Holyrood and Westminster was "unfair and unjust".'

    Very odd.

    The complaints apparently were made in January, but he wasn't told about it until March, at which time he told Sturgeon. He is suing the Scottish Government, because he feels that the process used to investigate the claims was illegal.

    This really is odd. I am no fan of Salmond, far from it, but I cannot believe he would have sexually harassed/assaulted anyone.

    There is some confusion in the reporting:


    The Daily Record says the allegations date back to December 2013, and that Mr Salmond has been reported to police over claims he sexually assaulted two staff members at the first minister's official residence at Bute House in Edinburgh.

    Is there a legal difference between 'harassed' and 'assaulted'? The two terms seem to be being used interchangeably in the reporting.

    There does seem to be a cooling of relations between the SNP and Salmond, no one is exactly rushing to his defence.

    The highlighted words are mine, there is a lot of C&P to avoid having to type too much.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2018
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model One star in sight

    do you have a link to a source?
     
  3. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    I don't see it TBH. I'm no fan of the man, his politics and mine are a world apart, but he's always seemed a decent person.
     
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  4. andysays

    andysays Defiantly non-premium member

  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model One star in sight

  6. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

  7. killer b

    killer b No Hateration, No Holeration. in this Dancery

    that's what the neighbours of serial killers say as they're being dragged off in handcuffs tbf
     
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  8. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    True.

    I fucking loath the man, but really cannot ... as you say though.

    Time will no doubt tell.
     
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  9. killer b

    killer b No Hateration, No Holeration. in this Dancery

    sure it will, high profile sexual assault/harassment cases are well known for coming to satisfactory conclusions
     
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  10. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    It will be interesting. there does seem to be a cooling of relations between Salmond and the SNP since he took up the RT gig.

    I don't think the SNP will 'circle the wagons' as they would have done previously, especially with Salmond going to court over a process that Sturgeon instituted.
     
  11. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama ERROR 23 : DEFAULT MODE NETWORK COMPROMISED Banned

  12. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

  13. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama ERROR 23 : DEFAULT MODE NETWORK COMPROMISED Banned

    :confused: Sorry ... you have lost me there :D Break it down .
     
  14. killer b

    killer b No Hateration, No Holeration. in this Dancery

    Sas is a mason, and therefore actually cares about the difference between one lodge of corrupt tories and another lodge of corrupt tories. No-one else does.
     
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  15. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama ERROR 23 : DEFAULT MODE NETWORK COMPROMISED Banned

    Cool . Another one to reprogramme . Yum.
     
  16. redcogs

    redcogs in the gutter beholding the stars

    one is bound to speculate whether there may be political motives underpinning this situation with an election always imminent?

    Or is this way too cynical?
     
  17. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Whose?
     
  18. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

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  19. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    Fuckin ell it's M.C. Hammer
     
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  20. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    I'm totally missing the point here, or you are. Neither Salmond or Russell are Tories, they are SNP.

    Oh, and my Lodge is mostly Labour, with a smattering of SNP and one LD. Hard to tell, because politics is off the table for discussion, as is religion.
     
  21. S☼I

    S☼I I don't want your poxy mint

    So you're not allowed to discuss religion in an organisation that has belief in a supreme being and of scripture as a condition of membership?
     
  22. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    I always think cui bono?

    Scottish elections are a while away. Westminster? Who knows.

    If it was political shenanigans, the timing is wrong.

    Other than the mini furore over his RT gig, not much heard of or from Salmond recently.

    I saw Salmond interviewed on the news tonight, body language was not good.
     
  23. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    Correct. It is recognised that at social gatherings where drink is taken, certain subjects are best not discussed. Politics and religion being two of them.

    A supreme being, your choice, be it Jehovah, God or Allah. I suspect that we have more Muslim Masons in Scotland though than we have Roman Catholics. We don't exclude Roman Catholics, their church does that.

    I'm just about to leave my Mother Lodge, and move to a Lodge nearer home. It will be nice to come in and sit and listen, I've been in office continually for eighteen years. I started as Bible Bearer just after becoming a Master Mason, and I've been through every office since, some several times.
     
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  24. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    Russell might not be a formal Tory, but he's a free market nut.
     
  25. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    :)
     
  26. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    God bod jury. You slouching devil. Sit up straight.
     
  27. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    One can but hope.

    What I don't understand is, why, if this was first reported in January, was the Scottish Government investigating, rather than the matter being put straight into the hands of the police? These are potentially criminal offences, not breaches of protocol.

    Has there been attempted suppression, but the alleged offences are too serious?

    It did say that Salmond has been trying to mediate his way out... out of what exactly?
     
  28. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Mason = love of fellow man - the near 20 years of hatred spewed by you on here. Right.
     
  29. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama ERROR 23 : DEFAULT MODE NETWORK COMPROMISED Banned

    I mean.... i do not know if there is any truth in this... but ... do you guys dress goats up and ... ..well ...you know ? :D


    [​IMG]

    I mean... is it consensual ? And don`t give me any of that `you can tell my the look in their little eyes... it is allmost like they know what is going on ` crap :hmm:
     
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  30. Poot

    Poot Everyone's a superhero, everyone's a Captain Kirk

    Alex Salmond asked me to play golf with him when I was 16*

    *He was organising a tournament, which makes it a lot less interesting. And I said no because I was working. But that is literally my only 'I met a celeb' story and I'm damn well using it because I never usually get the chance.
     

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