i_hate_beckham
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T & P said:
You think they'll let you pilot it anytime soon?
Airbus 380 (Superjumbo)
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You think they'll let you pilot it anytime soon?
alphaDelta
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That's exactly it. If the fuel efficiency is better than a 747, as I think they claim, then it's easy.
If you have a route that is currently working well with 747s, then you have two choices; (1) to use the extra space to provide increased luxury for the same price or (2) to use it to fit even more people in if the route is that busy.
You have to spend a lot on the aircraft themselves, but existing fleets only have a lifetime of so long - the first 747 was built in 1968. I really think Boeing's dropped the ball on this one, especially when you consider new markets in China and elsewhere.
If you have a route that is currently working well with 747s, then you have two choices; (1) to use the extra space to provide increased luxury for the same price or (2) to use it to fit even more people in if the route is that busy.
You have to spend a lot on the aircraft themselves, but existing fleets only have a lifetime of so long - the first 747 was built in 1968. I really think Boeing's dropped the ball on this one, especially when you consider new markets in China and elsewhere.
alphaDelta said:
As the plane weighs more than a 747 it will use more fuel to lift itself to cruising height, and to generate uplift as it flies. It might be more efficient (it wastes less fuel) but it will still use more fuel than a lighter plane.
There will only be environmental advantages if it carries many more people than a 747, preferably being full to near capacity with seated passengers.
Anyone seem stats on fuel usage comparing it to a 747??
I miss Concorde 
T & P
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According to Airbus it will consume less fuel per passenger than any other commercial jet ever. Apparently it consumes about 3.8 litres per passenger per 100km (or is it miles), which is lower than most cars as well.hovis said:
So if you look at it from the number of passengers transported, the A380 will help reduce CO2 levels if used as a replacement of other aircraft.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
What's 3.8 ltrs and 100KM in imperial measure?
Bout 60 MPG innit? That's as good as a micro-class car, dual fuel and some diesels...
Bout 60 MPG innit? That's as good as a micro-class car, dual fuel and some diesels...
COBALT_Blue
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Safety First
I heard that all new airlines were required to inform people to adopt the new safety position in the event of a terrorist attack. Since the new plane would make an ideal target for any rampant nutter who wants a high kill, you should all be familiar with new procedures.
Basically, you need to bring your knees up as far as you can whilst placing your hands over the top of your head and tucking your head in between your legs as best you can. If nothing else - at least you get to kiss your arse goodbye.
I heard that all new airlines were required to inform people to adopt the new safety position in the event of a terrorist attack. Since the new plane would make an ideal target for any rampant nutter who wants a high kill, you should all be familiar with new procedures.
Basically, you need to bring your knees up as far as you can whilst placing your hands over the top of your head and tucking your head in between your legs as best you can. If nothing else - at least you get to kiss your arse goodbye.
gosub
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When the FAA refuses to give it type certification there will be lots of political fall out but they will be right: Jacuzzi's/bars and the rest of the stuff everybodys going on about completely cover up the real BIG issue, one that could quite easily lead to the demise of AIRBUS - the wing (most complex and expensive part of an aircraft)- The whole thing is carbon fibre even the leading edges which means that every time a fuel bowser or baggage truck hits it (and as ground handling is least regulated part of AIr Transport happens quite often) you can't patch or gaffer tape the problem til it gets to a line station you have to replace the component - which is either not going to be particuarly practical or the have crashes and give Airbus a percieved safety image to rival DeHavilland or MacDonald Douglas.
Also this plane is v big but may not actually help in increasing the evr sprialling demand for seats ...nobody knows yet how long a gap to leave for its vortecies to be safe to fly through. Other thing of note about it along with major facility redevelopment of any airports that handle it each airport that handles it would recive a $200mil uprgade in safety systems due to the cost benefit equation used for risk assessment.
Also this plane is v big but may not actually help in increasing the evr sprialling demand for seats ...nobody knows yet how long a gap to leave for its vortecies to be safe to fly through. Other thing of note about it along with major facility redevelopment of any airports that handle it each airport that handles it would recive a $200mil uprgade in safety systems due to the cost benefit equation used for risk assessment.
alphaDelta
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Speculation, and poor quality speculation at that, as far as I can see. Qualify your statements.gosub said:
You write about it - for example its vortex - like it's twice as big as any plane that's ever flown before. It's not. It's moderately larger than a 747 at best. What about the vortex of an AN225? Yes, the airports are going to need modification, but do you know what this will entail? Maybe as little as some new gantries/gates and another yellow line on the tarmac with 'A380' written next to it, I don't know. It's a significant achievement which I'm pleased to see, but it's no giant leap.
COBALT_Blue
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It might get hit by a falling meteorite
And....I'm not sure I would want to share a plane that has a bar with 550 pissheads clinging to the armrests. Air turbulance would take on a whole new meaning.
alphaDelta
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It doesn't need it, but surely in effect they will have to in order to get people off the aircraft quickly enough via the increased number of doors? I dunno, I'm sleepy
Plus are there enough suitable gates for both those and the current 747s should they not be directly replaced plane-for-plane?
Plus are there enough suitable gates for both those and the current 747s should they not be directly replaced plane-for-plane?
alphaDelta
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Anyway that was meant to be my point. Don't forget the yellow paint!
chinchilla
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Minnie_the_Minx said:
you tell me. hahaha.
Minnie_the_Minx
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T & P said:
All very well, but from what I've been reading, a few airlines don't plan to give us any extra leg space
and some say the seats will only be 1" wider
Minnie_the_Minx
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Lonely Soul said:you tell me. hahaha.
Yes, but that's not for cattle class is it?
Minnie_the_Minx
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loud 1 said:
That's awful. Have you seen what a bird being sucked into the engine can do? Imagine what a horse can do
Anyway, isn't this cruelty to animals? What if someone accidentally turned the engine on and that horse became mince meat? Not very good PR
alphaDelta
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Neigh?Minnie_the_Minx said:Imagine what a horse can do
Juice Terry
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kyser_soze said:
Thats per person though, stick four people in an economy car and the per person mpg goes up to
(60 x 4) minus a bit for the extra weight = about 200mpg per person.
Minnie_the_Minx
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alphaDelta said:
*spitting feathers*
Have you seen what a bird can do?
Now, can you imagine what a horse could do?
And don't you be neighing at me you old nag
Minnie_the_Minx said:That's awful. Have you seen what a bird being sucked into the engine can do? Imagine what a horse can do
Anyway, isn't this cruelty to animals? What if someone accidentally turned the engine on and that horse became mince meat? Not very good PR
what's wrong with horseburger?
LilMissHissyFit
Disturbed in a pink bra
Well it will be keeping one of our local employers in business which is good for jobs I live near the engine servicing plant
I live near the engine servicing plantalphaDelta
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Bu.. bu...but horses can't fly!
Excepting of course Pegasus, who can.
Incidentally my dad used to do bird strike testing analysis (I think it was on the Hawk of all things!). They'd fire a chicken - dead, from Tesco, thawed - out of a cannon, at an aeroplane. Very scientific stuff.
Thing is they had to put it in a wooden block to stop it making a mess on firing, which they'd catch on a hook as it left the cannon, and the chicken would carry on. Once they forgot the hook. Very messy stuff.
Besides, I'm more scared of hailstorms than horses! Link and link
Excepting of course Pegasus, who can.
Incidentally my dad used to do bird strike testing analysis (I think it was on the Hawk of all things!). They'd fire a chicken - dead, from Tesco, thawed - out of a cannon, at an aeroplane. Very scientific stuff.
Thing is they had to put it in a wooden block to stop it making a mess on firing, which they'd catch on a hook as it left the cannon, and the chicken would carry on. Once they forgot the hook. Very messy stuff.
Besides, I'm more scared of hailstorms than horses! Link and link
Minnie_the_Minx
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alphaDelta said:
Have you been living on a different planet or something?
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