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Sunray said:
AirBnB rocks. The hosts have always been lovely and I am happy to accept that they want a certain level of checks, checks the internet makes possible. You are being invited to their home. Can't really expect much else.

AirBnB isn't compulsory.
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Way to miss the point completely.
 
Fez909 said:
Way to miss the point completely.
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No not really, There are other services you can use such as

http://www.housetrip.com/

(hmm looks uncannily like AirBnB) which has perhaps less checks? I've not used it but its popular in Europe I'm told.
Now of course if they keep all this data plain text in their database, its possible they could be breached and have a total nightmare. But given they know this, I suspect even if you took a full copy of their production db, I suspect you'd be looking at pages of hex with no way to decrypt any of it.
 
Sunray said:
No not really, There are other services you can use such as

http://www.housetrip.com/

(hmm looks uncannily like AirBnB) which has perhaps less checks? I've not used it but its popular in Europe I'm told.
Now of course if they keep all this data plain text in their database, its possible they could be breached and have a total nightmare. But given they know this, I suspect even if you took a full copy of their production db, I suspect you'd be looking at pages of hex with no way to decrypt any of it.
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Why do they even need it...that's the point.
 
Well, from their point of view, its all about risk and their insurance.

Remember if something goes wrong they will sort it out, without that guarantee AirBnB wouldn't be where it is right now. It one of the key features that oils wheels, (for both sides) and prevents it from being a stock headline news item when a journalist is bored one day.

Without any data, if it goes tits up, the insurance company probably would pay a cent either. Didn't do the checks. So they have to keep it to show they at least tried.

I do see your point. I think we should, perhaps we will end up, all have our own profile vault we give them access on our terms.
 
I had to go through all this shit a couple of weeks ago and was suprised. But fuck it, I have a party pad in Shoreditch tomorrow night for me Mrs Mapped and a couple of mates whilst Grandma looks after the baby at ours :)
 
Oh dear!

A woman's home was trashed on New Year's Eve after she rented it out on Airbnb, unaware that her guest was planning to use it as a venue for a wild party.

Christina McQuillan, 31, charged £128 for the use of flat in Putney, South West London, on the evening of December 31st, renting it out to a woman who she was just planning to sleep there for the night.

After neighbours telephoned Christina to alert her that a raucous party was taking place, she called the police but was told its was 'not a criminal matter'.

"We told her to shut it down immediately. This girl just laughed and said ‘no, I’m holding a party.’"
Christina McQuillan

"You could smell cannabis a mile off, Christina told the Evening Standard. "We entered the property and we told her to shut it down immediately. This girl just laughed and said ‘no, I’m holding a party.’

“My partner decided to cut the power upstairs and in the bedroom they were having a mass orgy.”
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Londoner's home trashed after Airbnb guests used it for 'orgy'
 
Rutita1 said:
Many places charge you extra for additional guests...this lady could seriously get her own back...
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it may be able to sue her for breach of contract, but also for 1) criminal damage; 2) conspiracy to cause criminal damage; and possibly other things - i am sure an urban lawyer will be along shortly to display their erudition.
 
Bigger. A mass orgy in the neighbourhood and I missed it, ah well, there is always next Christmas.
 
not-bono-ever said:
Airbnb hell when one mother returned home and was met by devastation | Daily Mail Online

Devastation after airbnb hell horror terror letting. Some pictures a broken picture frame and a mark of the wall just to bulk up this freelancers article. Now she knows how the citizens of Aleppo must feel

Still, at least she got a well deserved 2 week holiday in NYC out of it. and enough retrospective why oh why bleating to make a shitty article out of it.
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Who on earth rents your own home out anyway while on actual holiday? Isn't it meant to be the other way around.
 
not-bono-ever said:
Airbnb hell when one mother returned home and was met by devastation | Daily Mail Online

Devastation after airbnb hell horror terror letting. Some pictures a broken picture frame and a mark of the wall just to bulk up this freelancers article. Now she knows how the citizens of Aleppo must feel

Still, at least she got a well deserved 2 week holiday in NYC out of it. and enough retrospective why oh why bleating to make a shitty article out of it.
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So she rents her house, it gets a bit trashed, airbnb fully compensate her. I don't get what she's moaning about. Sounds like airbnb is infinitely preferable to renting it privately.
 
mango5 said:
My neighbour puts his place on Airbnb while he's on holiday.
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We're doing an Airbnb next week, and the owner is nearby, so i assume it's not their primary home. This is how i'd prefer it. What if the central heating plays up, the electric goes off etc etc?
 
cybershot said:
We're doing an Airbnb next week, and the owner is nearby, so i assume it's not their primary home. This is how i'd prefer it. What if the central heating plays up, the electric goes off etc etc?
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People who are away will usually have a mate to look after things, that's how my friends do it anyway. They live partly in Sheffield, partly New York, too unpredictable to let the flat they're not in, so Airbnb is perfect.
 
The association also met with legislators and attorneys general in dozens of other states to discuss how Airbnb hosts often do not comply with rules imposed on hotels, like anti-discrimination legislation, local tax collection laws, and safety and fire inspection standards. In some markets, the group said, Airbnb is dodging payment of local lodging taxes. In other places, it encouraged officials not to collect taxes from Airbnb hosts so as not to legitimize short-term rentals.

The association claimed legal and regulatory victories last year in Chicago, San Francisco and Los Angeles, as well as in states like Virginia, Tennessee and Utah, where laws were being passed to restrict Airbnb activity. The organization also funded research conducted by a professor at Pennsylvania State University to show that many Airbnb hosts were breaking the law.

“We are trying to showcase and bust the myth that Airbnb supports mom and pop and helps them make extra money,” Mr. Flanagan, of the American Hotel and Lodging Association, said. “Homesharing is not what this is about.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/16/...ick&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article
 
My neighbour now seems to spend more time away than at home. There are various people intermittently using his flat and I have no idea what they would do in the event of an emergency. The woman in there on Friday took no interest in my smoke alarm going off for several minutes. Our kitchen windows overlook each other so a string of strangers get to see me in my pyjamas. It does undermine the neighbourly vibe we used to have. And in the light of my past arguments with Airbnb about their registration requirements the news about their lax data security is no surprise BBC World Service - World Business Report, Airbnb users burgled after hacking
 
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