Air quality in Brixton and Brixton Road

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Bob, May 16, 2008.

  1. Bob

    Bob Rusesabagina for a nobel

    I've just stumbled across the London Air Quality network which gives daily updates on air quality at lots of sampling points in London.

    There's a sampling point by the Academy on Brixton road - which shows moderate air pollution yesterday (doesn't sound too serious). The rest of London had low air pollution though!

    Location info here:

    And air quality info here:

    There are some other sampling points nearby - Loughborough Junction & Vauxhall....
  2. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    I'm sure I read a report recently that said Brixton/Streatham Hill were the most polluted roads in London
  3. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

  4. ajdown

    ajdown Posting in this thread

    Could it be particularly bad at the moment because of all the traffic stuck in the single lane 'improvement works'?
  5. twistedAM

    twistedAM Left Of The Dial

    I always thought Brixton was a bit crap for that. My simple theory is that it is at the bottom of a four-mile-long hill and bad air tends to hang around. Then again that doesn;t explain why it's not worse than central london.

    I work in Brixton and live in Palace and do notice the difference.
  6. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    No, I doubt it. The report I read was some time last year and I've heard talk about the air quality in the area (particularly Streatham) for years and years
  7. editor

    editor hiraethified

    This is shocking - the road has suffered unacceptable levels of pollution for years now and it's not getting any better:
  8. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Yep - Having lived by that road for about 15yrs I was disturbed to read that. Didn't read in detail but from a quick glance it looked like Brixton Road is 40% worse than Oxford street which was the headline story?
  9. editor

    editor hiraethified

    The press focused on sexier Oxford Street, but Brixton Road was the most polluted in terms of NO2 levels last year by a considerable factor - and it was the same story in 2010.
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  10. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    what can we do?
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  11. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Breathe less.
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  12. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Lobby more. Write about it. Publicise it.
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  13. story

    story Changing the facts

    But in any case, what can be done about it?

    Can traffic be limited or reduced on this street? It's a major through route. Obviously the larger issue is vehicles, fuel, particulates etc. but that's a larger policy issue.
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  14. story

    story Changing the facts

    What would we be asking for though?

    Where would the traffic go?
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  15. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    I'd impose some sanctions on private cars.
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  16. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    That would be local and not help. Issue is main arterial route for lorries and busses (and non local cars).
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  17. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Put up wires and convert all buses to trolley buses.
  18. EastEnder

    EastEnder Brixton Barnacle

    IIRC diesel engines produce a lot more NO2 than petrol engines (with catalytic converters), and there's an awful lot of buses on Brixton Road.

    I suggest replacing them with a tram system. Maybe one like this:


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  19. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It needs a whole load of coordinated strategies, but maybe banning big diesel lorries in peak hours (where they're forced to go slowly because of traffic) or insisting that the most polluting vehicles be retrofitted with filters might help? Either way it is unacceptable that Brixtonites should be forced to inhale such health threatening fumes every day.
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  20. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    re-installing tram lines would be incredibly disruptive. You have to re-route utilities because the point loads from trams are much higher than regular traffic. They'd also have to share space with buses, thus removing the scheduling benefits.

    Trolley buses are the answer. Most buses in London are already Hybrids, so should be convertable to electric operation. They could even keep their diesel engines for driving "off the wires"
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  21. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

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  22. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    I have the impression that most of the traffic is private cars, which slow down vehicles that provide more utility: buses, lorries, vans and taxis.

    Or is it the case that lorries produce the bulk of these pollutants?
  23. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Diesel lorries, vans and buses are the real BaD BoyZ, with the situation made worse by the congestion caused by private cars.
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  24. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    i would guess that a good percentage of the private cars on the road at rush hour are doing school runs
    this could easily be stopped by making kids go to the nearest school to their house
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  25. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    How do you identify private cars ?
  26. steeeve

    steeeve Well-Known Member

    buses seem the worst to me especially when blocking the road next to the station while trying to overtake each other.

    Even the new Routemasters fail the ultra low emission zone criteria
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  27. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Because they'll be the ones saluting the captain cars.
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  28. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    No taxi stamp or company logos etc. Not likely to be precise.

    In ten minutes outside Olive Morris house today, most of the traffic (80%?) was private cars, by my rough definition.
  29. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    Was this around school run time ?
    Was there congestion ?
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  30. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    IIRC there's a scheme in place to convert all London Transport buses to zero or ultra-low emissions, but I don't know what the time scale is for completion... The sooner the better, that's for sure.

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