AI, what a load of shit

[Orang Utan]

Like Minority Report, A.I. seemed to have about 3 different points where the film could have ended, each being more annoying than the preceeding one.

Eh? I don't agree - the story is unresolved when he jumps into the sea

 

[Pseudopsycho]

Maybe I like things a little dark, but upon realising that he is not unique and that he would never achieve the care and love he longed for he commits suicide. Self-termination being the preserve of truly sentient and concious being he achieves a state of humanity and of life through death.



...But then people would have said it was ripped off from T2 (lol)

 

[cliche guevara]

Why was the ending bad? I thought the ending made the film.

Because it just tailed off, and him getting trapped under the ice and everyone dying was so cliched, then just when you think it can't get any worse, they throw some aliens in.

 

[Gromit]

Kubrick was a genius.

Spielberk liked to think he was his mate and stepped in to finish it for him when he died. Cue ET'esk cutesieness

Just wish Kubrick could have lived to have completed it himself.

I would have finished it with him falling in the sea tbh. Him achieving his unachievable goal is just shite.

 

[Orang Utan]

Because it just tailed off, and him getting trapped under the ice and everyone dying was so cliched, then just when you think it can't get any worse, they throw some aliens in.

You obviously didn't pay attention if you thought they were aliens - the story - the fairy story wouldn't have been resolved of it had just ended with the 'suicide'

 

[El Jefe]

It started OK, but lost its way in a more dramatic fashion than any film I've ever seen. The last, what, 45 mins were just astonishingly bad - they clearly had no idea how to end the movie and fell back on bad philosophy, exposition and schmaltz

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It is a necessary ending. As I said before, this story is a fairytale for robots.

 

[Gromit]

Does it make baby jesus cry?

 

[mentalchik]

Does it make baby jesus cry?

Lets hope so........


*rubs hands together in evil manner*







Shit just realised who that was really aimed at................D'OH !

 

[Pseudopsycho]

It is a necessary ending. As I said before, this story is a fairytale for robots.

So a target audience of either a)3 robots in Japan and 1 in Reading, or b) robots from/in the future looking back through the mists of time at their first bona fide legend?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So a target audience of either a)3 robots in Japan and 1 in Reading, or b) robots from/in the future looking back through the mists of time at their first bona fide legend?

Those and humans with an imagination.

 

[kyser_soze]

Because it just tailed off, and him getting trapped under the ice and everyone dying was so cliched, then just when you think it can't get any worse, they throw some aliens in.

Aliens?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Not great, not terrible from here. The ending doesn't bother me - i don't think it especially detracts from the story (especially as the future it depicts is frequently hinted at throughout the film), but nor does it really add anything to the film...ho hum...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Not great, not terrible from here. The ending doesn't bother me - i don't think it especially detracts from the story (especially as the future it depicts is frequently hinted at throughout the film), but nor does it really add anything to the film...ho hum...

??? I appear to have watched a different film. As with all good endings, this one made sense of everything that had gone before it. It answers the question 'how can his dearest wish be granted?' in a very satisfying way.

 

[Gromit]

Ah come off it. Its so deus ex machina an ending it should be ashamed of itself.

Godly noble robots come along and grant his wish.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Ah come off it. Its so deus ex machina an ending it should be ashamed of itself.

Godly noble robots come along and grant his wish.

And it's a wish that can only be granted once all humans are dead.

 

[kyser_soze]

??? I appear to have watched a different film. As with all good endings, this one made sense of everything that had gone before it. It answers the question 'how can his dearest wish be granted?' in a very satisfying way.

Ending it when he finds the statue would have been equally valid IMO.

 

[Orang Utan]

??? I appear to have watched a different film. As with all good endings, this one made sense of everything that had gone before it. It answers the question 'how can his dearest wish be granted?' in a very satisfying way.

Quite.

 

[likesfish]

it was shite
though jude law was stunning realistic as a robot was he actually acting

 

[Orang Utan]

Ending it when he finds the statue would have been equally valid IMO.

But then it wouldn't have been resolved - did you pay attention to the fairy story related to David? How would him encountering the statue be his 'everlasting moment'?

 

[kyser_soze]

I have no issues with the fairy story remaining unresolved tho.

 

[Gromit]

But then it wouldn't have been resolved - did you pay attention to the fairy story related to David? How would him encountering the statue be his 'everlasting moment'?

The blue fairy quest was a device planted by the programmers in an attempt to stimulate / simulate human striving.

Its didn't have to be achieved in the film. It just had to be explained by his creator.

 

[tiki]

I'll admit that I loved it.

Blubbed like a baby at the end. There was lots of shmaltz but the film managed to get away with it.

Also (((((Teddy)))))

 

[red rose]

My dad took my whole family to see this at the cinema when it came out - we have pretty varied tastes and we all agreed that it was shit.

 

[rhod]

You obviously didn't pay attention if you thought they were aliens

I think this was a pretty major cock-up in the production design department. The fact that the robots at the end looked so much like a typical Hollywood alien must have made a lot of viewers think "Aliens? WTF??!!!" and turn the whole fairytale plotline on its head

 

[Badgers]

It was over the top and heavy on the smaltch but I keep it filed under 'mostly harmless'

Can see why people are not keen but I am a bit soft for the fantasy film. Reckon it would have been a LOT better with Stanley at the helm but that goes without saying for a lot of films.

 

[g force]

Jude Law as a robot incapable of showing emotions? Sounds like perfect casting to me! I thought parts of AI were great and yeah I loved Teddy too (cos I want one!!) but the last 45 mins was unbearable.

 

[El Jefe]

I think this was a pretty major cock-up in the production design department. The fact that the robots at the end looked so much like a typical Hollywood alien must have made a lot of viewers think "Aliens? WTF??!!!" and turn the whole fairytale plotline on its head

Exactly. The narrative might have made it clear they weren't aliens, but in which case why make them pretty much exact copies of your standard "abducted hillbilly" drawing of an alien which has predominated for years?

 

[Orang Utan]

I think this was a pretty major cock-up in the production design department. The fact that the robots at the end looked so much like a typical Hollywood alien must have made a lot of viewers think "Aliens? WTF??!!!" and turn the whole fairytale plotline on its head

I thought that was cool - that the mechas had evolved to look like humans' image of aliens, rather than superhumans, this showed that artificial intelligence wasn't just ersatz humanity, but an 'improvement' (very Kubrickian). Anyway, there was never any doubt they were aliens though - only a stupid or distracted person would think they were aliens.

 

[rhod]

Also, what a lot of people overlook is that the whole point of the cloying sentimentality and artifice at the end of the film, is that it mirrors the sentimentality and artifice of David's creation at the beginning of the film. A very Kubrick touch, rather than the Speilberg schmaltz that many atttribute to this plot device. It looks like a happy ending, but beneath that there is tragedy in David's eventual destination in his journey to be human.

If I could have changed anything about the film, I would have made the "big city" scenes a lot sleazier (to hell with the rating!), and the "junk yard" scenes less redneck, and more cold and clinical - as if the idea of blowing robots up for entertainment was an entirely normal family activity.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

ON the fairytale argument...


Since when do fairytales have to have soppy endings? I give you The Little Mermaid.


EDIT: AI annoys me cos it SHOULD be a fucking cracking film. All the great themes are there. Particularly like the way that the human need for love fucks things up. However it just turned into average.

I sincerely hope that a really great director re-makes this film.