Ahmadinejad goes off the deep end.

[butchersapron]

I completely agree and that is the tragedy of Ahmedinedjed's crass anti-Semitism. It gives weapons to Israel and its apologists who wish to smear all opponents of Israel with the brush of anti-Semitism.

This is nothing new, the Israeli propaganda machine is expert at this kind of abuse. Criticism of Israel= anti Semitism. Not difficult, they have enough useful idiots like butchers to do their dirty work for them.

And for the 5th or 6th time you accuse me of calling you anti-semitic. I've never said any such thing. I've never talked to you about Israel - i've rarely talked abaout israel on here full stop - beyond, oddly ebough, pointing out on the odd occassion that the idea that criticism of Israel= anti Semitism is bullshit. I think you really need to not renew that spart card. Ahmadinejad's usful idiots are at work here.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh do fuck off you prick. If you wish to join the Zionists in labelling anyone who criticises Israel as Anti-Semitic, go ahead. I stand with the victims of Israeli aggression.
The tragedy is that Ahmedinedjad, with his crass anti-Semitism, plays straight into the hands of Zionist apologists like you.

You have an inability to take criticism, don't you?
Time and time again, whenever anyone questions you, you go off on a tirade of abuse.

Grow up.

Oh, and as for BA being a "Zionist apologist", you're having a bubble. He's as much a Zionist apologist as Mullah Omar.

 

[Spion]

Not difficult, they have enough useful idiots like butchers to do their dirty work for them.

His 'no war but the class war' position on the Israel/Palestine situation is a great help also

 

[butchersapron]

His 'no war but the class war' position on the Israel/Palestine situation is a great help also

You shipped them arms yet?

 

[Spion]

You have an inability to take criticism, don't you?
Time and time again, whenever anyone questions you, you go off on a tirade of abuse.

The lad's just venting some bile. It's to be encouraged apparently

 

[ViolentPanda]

butchers often reasonable and astute points are too often lost in the bile.

Why should people have to suffer fools gladly?

 

[butchersapron]

The lad's just venting some bile. It's to be encouraged apparently

If it's poltically directed then fair enough. It is in this case, it's one-eyed support of the theocracy and eveyone else is a fucking zionist though.

 

[dylans]

You have an inability to take criticism, don't you?
Time and time again, whenever anyone questions you, you go off on a tirade of abuse.

Grow up.

Oh, and as for BA being a "Zionist apologist", you're having a bubble. He's as much a Zionist apologist as Mullah Omar.

And time and time again you rush to his defence. Very sweet but I'm sure he can defend himself without hiding behind your skirt.

He calls me an anti-Semite. For that he was called a prick. Tell you what, he doesn't throw unwarranted abuse at me and I won't respond in kind, deal?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Which 'people', where? Was this a speech for home consumption?

I believe it was for home consumption.

I'm thinking those it wasn't directed at, the wider world, are the "people" I mean. As we saw with the last Ahmedinedjad farrago, some people tend to take their lead from the media, so I reckon it'll be another "Ahmedinedjad is Jew-hating fruitbat"-fest, with the accurate point he made either buried or elided altogether.

 

[Spion]

If it's poltically directed then fair enough. It is in this case, it's one-eyed support of the theocracy and eveyone else is a fucking zionist though.

I don't know if dylans supports the theocracy. You'd better ask him about that.

What I do know is it's quite easy to get fucked off with people shouting the shit about some words being said suddenly seem more important than what actually happens in Is/Pal

"Gaza is under blockade. Israel carries out nightly raids on the West Bank and have effectively stolen most of it"
"I don't care. Ahmedinajad just said something anti-semitic"

 

[butchersapron]

He calls me an anti-Semite.

Nutter.

 

[butchersapron]

I don't know if dylans supports the theocracy. You'd better ask him about that.

What I do know is it's quite easy to get fucked off with people shouting the shit about some words being said suddenly seem more important than what actually happens in Is/Pal

"Gaza is under blockade. Israel carries out nightly raids on the West Bank and have effectively stolen most of it"
"I don't care. Ahmedinajad just said something anti-semitic"

Yes, thank you shakespeare. Do you often just make stuff up?

 

[ViolentPanda]

And time and time again you rush to his defence. Very sweet but I'm sure he can defend himself without hiding behind your skirt.

It's not about defence. It's about you always going off half-cocked, rather than pausing and thinking about what you're doing.

He calls me an anti-Semite.

Except that he didn't.
You're inferring that he's insinuated that you are, but the words "dylans is an anti-Semite" reside only in your hrad.

For that he was called a prick. Tell you what, he doesn't throw unwarranted abuse at me and I won't respond in kind, deal?

Well, if we're being accurate here, you're the abuser, because you reacted to a perceived insult rather than an actual one.

Who's the "prick" in that situation, hmmm?

 

[ViolentPanda]

The lad's just venting some bile. It's to be encouraged apparently

It frees the body of choleric humours, according to the Zohar.

 

[Spion]

It frees the body of choleric humours, according to the Zohar.

Can I get it on the NHS?

 

[dylans]

I don't know if dylans supports the theocracy. You'd better ask him about that.
"

As Butchers knows very well, I consistently supported the recent rebellion in Iran. Go back and look at my posts.
I have also said time and time again (on this thread and others) that Ahmedinedjads undoubted anti-Semitism is a gift to Israel and those who wish to label all opponents of the Israeli occupation as anti-Semitic.

ViolentPanda, for all your griping at me, I actually agree with your last few posts. Undoubtedly, the valid point he made about the birth of Israel will be buried under outrage at his undoubted anti-Semitism and that is a tragedy for all anti zionists.

 

[butchersapron]

As Butchers knows very well, I consistently supported the recent rebellion in Iran. Go back and look at my posts.

Weird that you can't do what you ask of others then and are happy instead to smear others as 'zionist'.

(and other posters, do read that old thread, it had Dylans making the exact same mistake but worse and refusing to ever acknowldge he got it wrong even when he he had the wrong poster - very revealing of the damage schematic dogma can do)

 

[butchersapron]

*Must... be...zionist*

 

[dylans]

Weird that you can't do what you ask of others then and are happy instead to smear them as 'zionist'.

You use exactly the same tactic of the Zionists. You accuse me of anti-semitism (ok, you inferred it.) When I pointed out the truth in Ahmedinadjads claim that the holocaust was and is used as an excuse for the effective ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. This smear tactic is a classic zionist propaganda trick used to smear any critic of Israel. If the hat fits mate.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Can I get it on the NHS?

No. It requires a deep and meaningfully-spiritual massage from a sexually-voracious woman, and the NHS won't stretch to that.

 

[butchersapron]

You're mad. Yes, you're surrounded by zionists. All dissagreement is motivated by zionism. Never mind that your inferral was miles off beam. If i thought you were anti-semitic, believe me, i wouldn't be inferring it.

You've made a bit of a shouty ranty tit of yourself frankly.

 

[dylans]

You're mad. Yes, you're surrounded by zionists. All dissagreement is motivated by zionism. Never mind that your inferral was miles off beam. if i thought you were anti-semitic, believe me, i wouldn't be inferriing it.

You'ver made a bit of a shouty ranty tit of yourself frankly.

You are a coward. You don't even have the balls to stand by your own posts. You know damn well that you were implying I am anti-Semitic. Now you deny it. Why don't you go back and edit it out before anyone else sees it?

 

[butchersapron]

Edit what out you mad jew?

 

[dylans]

Edit what out you mad jew?

Anti-Semite

 

[butchersapron]

Blood libel, conceptual taxonomy! Seriously, what's wrong with you?

 

[Spion]

So Ahmedinedjad uses anti-semitic language, hardly news. However....

" The occupation of the Palestinian land had no connection with the issue of holocaust. The claim, the pretext, and the masterminds are all fraudulent and corrupt. They are all historical criminals."

......Is absolutely spot on. The Palestinians have indeed been made to pay the price for a European problem that they had nothing to do with. The Israeli state and its apologists do indeed cynically hide behind the holocaust to deflect criticism of what amounts to a modern day holocaust, the ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of the Palestinian people by Israel.

The 'So' gives the game away.

So, what were you implying in this response, Butchers?

 

[ViolentPanda]

You are a coward. You don't even have the balls to stand by your own posts. You know damn well that you were implying I am anti-Semitic. Now you deny it. Why don't you go back and edit it out before anyone else sees it?

Actually, I believe he was implying something a little closer to home, to do with your position on Iran.
Still, that's just my interpretation.

 

[ViolentPanda]

So, what were you implying in this response, Butchers?

Looks fairly obvious to me. My take on it is that BA was implying that dylans was indulging (against his better judgement) in a spot of apologism on Ahmedinedjad's behalf.

 

[butchersapron]

So, what were you implying in this response, Butchers?

That dylans preparing to act as a soft-aplogist for the theocracy.

 

[butchersapron]

Only a zionist would accuse someone of anti-semitism anyway.