Afghanistan, what now?

[FridgeMagnet]

Peter Dow: Please read the FAQ and do not spam the board with any more of this stuff. Thanks.

 

[mears]

At some point you have to say let the Afghans eat cake. The US and by extension NATO can not get into a protracted civil war in Afghanistan. This has all the similarities to Vietnam. If islamic radicals retake afghanistan the west will have to isolate the regime and reserve the right to continue military (heavy bombing or drone attacks) operations against whatever element is in charge in Kabul.

The time for NATO to pull out of afghanistan is right now.

 

[Barking_Mad]

At some point you have to say let the Afghans eat cake. The US and by extension NATO can not get into a protracted civil war in Afghanistan. This has all the similarities to Vietnam. If islamic radicals retake afghanistan the west will have to isolate the regime and reserve the right to continue military (heavy bombing or drone attacks) operations against whatever element is in charge in Kabul.

The time for NATO to pull out of afghanistan is right now.

Better late than never, eh Mears?

 

[butchersapron]

At some point you have to say let the Afghans eat cake. The US and by extension NATO can not get into a protracted civil war in Afghanistan. This has all the similarities to Vietnam. If islamic radicals retake afghanistan the west will have to isolate the regime and reserve the right to continue military (heavy bombing or drone attacks) operations against whatever element is in charge in Kabul.

The time for NATO to pull out of afghanistan is right now.

You mean extend the war even further just don't let those US and British troops get killed. Pull out and step up. Quite amazing.

 

[dylanredefined]

Well that will be what will happens if the Taliban get in and start either preaching eternal jihad against the West.Or turning a blind eye to training camps being re- established.
Or it is in someone's Interest to bomb them.Really if you wanted an excuse to bomb someone because their doing something vile the Taliban have it covered.

 

[weltweit]

The Taliban have time on their side. They can wait. We on the other hand cannot..

 

[butchersapron]

We?

 

[weltweit]

We?

You have said that before !!!

I think it is acceptable to describe Britain as we ...

 

[butchersapron]

Describe Britain then, not 'we' - it's not acceptable at all.

 

[dylanredefined]

The Taliban have time on their side. They can wait. We on the other hand cannot..

Its not as if the West can't come back and start again when they feel like it.Iraq proves its quite possible.May not be able to build a state but we can smash them again and again.

 

[weltweit]

Its not as if the West can't come back and start again when they feel like it.Iraq proves its quite possible.May not be able to build a state but we can smash them again and again.

I just can't see any reason why the next time we might be any more successful than we were last time, or the time before that, or the others that have tried...

 

[dylanredefined]

Well why is that going to stop anyone?

 

[weltweit]

Afganistan has been the graveyard of many a foreign army, long will it probably continue.

Why would it be any different?

 

[butchersapron]

A number of unchallenged 'we's' above...

 

[weltweit]

Afganistan has been the graveyard of many a foreign army, long will it probably continue.

Why would it be any different?

A number of unchallenged 'we's' above...

Where? I don't see any!!

 

[butchersapron]

Where? I don't see any!!

That's the power of it, you don't even see it, you don't notice that you're doing it:

#160

Its not as if the West can't come back and start again when they feel like it.Iraq proves its quite possible.May not be able to build a state but we can smash them again and again.

#161

I just can't see any reason why the next time we might be any more successful than we were last time, or the time before that, or the others that have tried...

 

[weltweit]

oh, ok ...

 

[audiotech]

U.S. Troops Accused of Killing Afghans For Fun, Collecting Fingers As Trophies

The Guardian newspaper reports twelve U.S. soldiers face charges over forming a secret "kill team" that allegedly blew up and shot Afghan civilians at random and collected their fingers as trophies. Five of the soldiers are charged with murdering three Afghan men who were allegedly killed for fun in separate attacks this year. Seven others are accused of covering up the killings and assaulting a recruit who exposed the murders when he reported other abuses. All of the soldiers are members of a Stryker infantry brigade based in Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. Meanwhile the father of one of the men charged has told the Associated Press he tried nearly a half dozen times to pass an urgent message from his son to the Army that troops in his unit had murdered an Afghan civilian and planned more killings.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/10/headlines#2
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/09/us-soldiers-afghan-civilians-fingers