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Adobe Lightroom for photographers

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by wordie, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. Firky

    Firky The first of the gang Banned

    I just can't get away with it, Photoshop is engrained in me. I am sure it's a good programme but Photoshop is better.
     
  2. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Photoshop is a pretty shit program for organising a photo library, and also I would argue worse than a lot for simple image manipulation - not in terms of results obviously but ease of use and startup time and so on.

    I mean, obviously I don't give a shit what you use, plus they're both Adobe and I hate Adobe :D but just saying.
     
  3. Firky

    Firky The first of the gang Banned

    My library consists of dumping the photo I like into a folder named Location / Event - Date and forgetting about them. I like the idea of tagging but I CBA to do it :D

    Photoshop does have a convoluted way of doing the most basic of things but I know all the shortcuts and things off the top of my head and have a load of actions. It's just what I am used to... although it does feel like taking a sledge hammer to a nut for some things.
     
  4. mincepie

    mincepie Everday lurker!

    Yes, use it, love it. But imho badly programmed - needs powerful hardware or it's just irritating. (Compare with the free Google Picassa - super snappy on any old machine)
    Some blokes written some software "paddy" that allows you to drive it from MIDI - so got a small box with dials on it - makes editing much faster.
    If you have Mac then see also Apple Aperture - I think this is easier to use?

    hardly ever use PS now - 95% in Lightroom. Much faster.
     
  5. mincepie

    mincepie Everday lurker!

    I have it do it automatically. When you import images you can assign stuff to happen while imported - maybe auto levels, sharpen etc, add your name to metadata, rename files or in this case correct for distortion.
     
  6. Firky

    Firky The first of the gang Banned

    Does Aperture have a good think about things when using RAW files the same way LR does? I guess I could download it and find.
     
  7. Firky

    Firky The first of the gang Banned

    I've installed Aperture. It's OK... but it has that annoying thing of wanting to organise your library when I can do a perfectly good job myself. It doesn't feel as clunky as Lightroom, in fact it whizzes along.

    Will it replace my 20 years of using Photoshop? Will it shite.
     
  8. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    You can just set it to leave files where they were.
     
  9. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    Currently being offered at a substantial discount, until January the 9th. I picked it up myself.
     
  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I bought v4, installed it once but was overwhelmed by the choices, so fled back to ACDSee. Where/how much is the discount?
     
  11. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    If you buy it from Amazon it's currently £72.99 (disc or download), but if you buy it direct from Adobe as a download it's £71.80. Normal price £102.57.

    It really is a very powerful program. I like the fact that you can use the adjustment brush, or the graduated filter, to alter parts of image rather than just the whole thing
     
  12. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    There's a free trial you can download at Adobe's website.
     
  13. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    I just noticed you already have four, the upgrade edition is £54.99 on Amazon. Don't know if that is the regular price or not.

    Edit: Yes and no. No discount on that version, but it is £57.64 on Adobe's website.

    If you already have four, I'm not sure it's worth the upgrade. Best look at the new features to see if they appeal to you.
     
  14. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    Just got LR5. Fuck me, it's awesome! :D

    Going to take some time getting used to it though.
     
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  15. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    Best things for me, as opposed to the free offerings like RAW Therapee (that I used previously), are the ability to do local adjustments (very, very hand), and also the ability to edit one photo, then apply those changes to a whole load of others - saves a lot of time. :)

    You even get it to automatically geotag your photos (if you have a gpx file), then show all their locations on a map.
     
  16. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    Not fussed with the geotag stuff, but just the power & ease of editing is awesome! And the mail export which I can use without buying photomechanic. Top stuff! :cool:
     
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  17. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I've merged several old threads on Lightroom as I'm mulling over finally making the leap after being hugely disappointed in ACDSee's latest efforts.

    Who's using it now? Is it still beastly complicated?
     
  18. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    If I can bend my head around it Ed, so can you. You'll love it!

    E2a There's some great tutorials online if you get stuck with certain aspects.
     
  19. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The bit I've never liked is all this importing business. Seems a real faff compared to ACDSee which lets you browse folders from the off.
     
  20. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    A friend of mine who's used to just having big folders of files and editing them with Photoshop got hold of it recently. I tried to take him through the idea, as he wasn't used to using photo management software at all, but I ended up finding it really confusing and unintuitive myself, and he hated it, so he's back to folders and Photoshop now.
     
  21. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    One of the things that has made me reconsider Lightroom is that I really need to properly catalogue my photos and I don't want to commit to software with an uncertain future.

    Given ACDSee's response to a recent problem - a shrug and a refund that was almost too willingly offered - I need to find something I can trust.

    Trouble is, every time I've tried Lightroom I've really hated it.
     
  22. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    Importing is easy. I import the whole folder, then go through them & flag which ones I want to keep, bin the rest.

    What I don't use LR for is a catalog. What images I want to keep, are then exported to where ever I want them (great phtotoshelter plugin available) & then delete from LR. My use for it is as an import/export & editing tool.
     
  23. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    LR6 is a very good catalog if you want to use it. Fuck me, I sound like an Adobe rep!
     
  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    That already sounds hideously complicated.
     
  25. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    If I can do it, you'll piss it. It really isn't difficult once you've learnt to use it.

    Sign up for a subscription, 8 quid a month i think I pay. If you can't get on with it, bin it.
     
  26. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    £96 a year? Just for one program? Do you think I'm made of money?!
     
  27. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    And I am? Try it. If you don't like it, fuck it off. A damn sight cheaper than buying it out right, plus you get all the upgrades & latest versions, like I have. A great piece of sw tbh :)
     
  28. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Why not picasa? Let's you keep your folder structure, but adds useful nondestructive editing and categorisation etc.
     
  29. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie In solidarity with the people of Catalonia

    LR is nondestructive in all aspects, & pisses all over picasa :)
     
  30. RoyReed

    RoyReed Must fly!

    AfterShot is a good alternative to Lightroom if you don't want to go down the Adobe route (I use Lightroom, but not the subscription model) and slightly cheaper too. It's currently on offer at £58.99 - Lightroom is just over £100 for the non-subscription version if you can find it on Adobe's website.

    If I was starting from scratch I'd seriously consider AfterShot, but there's no way of converting a Lightroom database, so it would mean re-importing, sorting, tagging and manipulating getting on for 50,000 images. Not going to happen.

    AfterShot Pro 2 Review | PhotographyBLOG
     
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