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Acetates and Dub Plates

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by twentythreedom, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    I have just been sniffing my acetates from the olden days.

    I LOVE the smell of acetates, and to know that you are the one and only person on the planet with that super-knock-em-dead sonic superweapon is truly wonderful.

    To finish a track in th studio and then mash up the place when you're DJing later on is a truly beautiful thing.

    So, be it 10"or 12", dig out your plates and inhale deeply.

    Hooray for dub plates!!
     
  2. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Still got quite a few laying around - mostly 93/94 hardcore/jungle bits and then 96-99 speed garage/ukg stuff. Some d'n'b stuff from recent years. Most of which still play fine - don't think I've got any 'specials' or anything unreleased though. Going to go and take a look in a minute :)

    Remember my mates doing some tunes bitd and us making the trek to Music House one afternoon so they could them get cut - finally finding it and it just being this like ramshackle old shed :D, but loads of people queuing with dats, couple of big DJs hanging around with loads of dubs! :cool:

    Oh and I've posted this before but seems rather apt - on the wall in my spare bedroom!

    [​IMG]

    (original 'Metalheadz' plate - Goldie - Angel/Doc Scott - VIP Drumz iirc)
     
  3. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    I've got VIP drumz on promo.

    And the original Nasty Habits orig + remixes too. Steph, did you gie the plate a little sniff yet?
     
  4. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Hard to not get a whiff innit ;)
     
  5. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    I'll put some of my crackly plates up on soundcloud at some point.
     
  6. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    We gonna get some urbanite mixes from you at some point? ;)
     
  7. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    I used to get mine done at Porky's on Shaftesbury Ave - £50 for a 12" (both sides). Dub plates are objects of unique beauty and wonder.
     
  8. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    oh yeah deffo, I've got tons of old hardhouse / trance / nrg / acid tech etc mixes - I need to get my arse in gear and do some new 90 - 93 only-for-the-headstrong-whistle-posse-white-gloves flex bizniz tings an ting
     
  9. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Cool!


    More plate porn! :D

    [​IMG]
     
  10. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    I think I know what tune that is steph, it's an old skool classic!
     
  11. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    Is Music House still going?
     
  12. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Think so, they moved to Tottenham a while ago.
     
  13. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

  14. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

  15. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    it's a bit shit innit steph, I thought there'd be more dubplate sniffers than just you and me! mind you, we are proper old skool vinyl junkies
     
  16. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    There's a piece on dubplate cutting houses in Woofah magazine, but I don't own any :-(
     
  17. Apathy

    Apathy Roll us yer cap Grandad!!

    love that tune:)



    not got any dubplates myself tho
     
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  18. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom doesn't like the cut of your jib

    A man has not truly lived until he has cut his own plate. And sniffed it.
     
  19. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing dubplates are still a major part of reggae/dancehall in JA aren't they Fozzie? I can't imagine that whole scene without dubplates, but saying that I can't imagine not having 45s too and they're pretty much on the way out out?

    Certainly house music mostly moved to CDR from acetate a long while ago, although I think dubplates are still pretty heavily used for d'n'b - and they're a major currency in dubstep.
     
  20. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    vinyl is as good as dead in JA from what I gather - CDs have won over - cost and ease. I think that goes for pre-release cuts as well. Vinyl that is pressed is for the non-JA market
    good article here from 2008
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/jan/18/urban.popandrock1
    i remember hearing the last vinyl press shut down in JA a little while back... im sure someone else can give us more details.

    by the way i seem to remember reading that vinyl sales in britain and the us are bouncing back a fair bit in sales over recent years, but still a tiny fraction of the overall market.

    as to dubplates, £50 for a track you can play a couple of dozen times was always going to be an area of music exclusivity for those rich enough to afford it, bound to fall as soon as technology allowed - no matter how good they smell :)

    im reading about the history of music technology at the moment, going back to the first cuttings, and the principle behind the technology that is vinyl is quite incredible to me - in theory it makes sense, but nonetheless the groove and the needle remains a miracle.

    --

    i think CD has come to dominate in DNB too steph - seems to me its only the odd well paid dj who still like to spend there money at cutting houses
     
  21. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Not surprising - when you cut a CDR at home so cheaply and play it out, rather than like you say spending 40/50 quid on a plate. The worse side to dubplates IMO was that big DJs wielded the whole exclusivity thing to their own advantage rather than letting people get their hands on the music - waiting for 6-12 months from first hearing a DJ drop an amazing tune on plate to finally it appearing on vinyl and by then the tune/scene moved on - or sometimes the tune never coming at all :(
     
  22. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    yeah, it did get a bit stoopid - i think it also turned the scene into a competition, with a mentatlity of 'you're only as big as your last plate' coming to pervade, which added a lot more testosterone to the scene, and to the music.

    *Oh and thanks for the post Apathy - nice sample spotting :)
     
  23. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    One for today...

    [​IMG]



    This tune just takes me to another place...
     
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  24. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    The odd tune is still getting pressed in Jamaica, Dub Vendors March mail out has three rhythms I think. Couple more JA producers getting them pressed in Germany, its all for the foreign market, none selling in JA.

    I love my dubplates. Some I've had cut, mostly original 70's roots sound system mixes. Got a a handful from other sounds such as King Tafari Love Muzik, the number sound in Brighton in the 80's - great to own some of the plates I heard at my very first dances. Also got some from Wassie 1, the one man sound system from south London, a Sly & Robbie 80's tune, can't think what else at the mo.
     
  25. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Finally got around to getting Woofah issue 4 (well better late than ever!) and top piece, good work! It's been well overdue for a decent article about UK cutting houses as they often only get a passing mention in histories of reggae, d'n'b or garage and yet have been totally key to those scenes. If it weren't for the connections made between producers and DJs whilst hanging out in those lengthy queues at Music House, you wonder just how things might have developed (especially in pre-internet/myspace times).

    Incidently, found these great 90s pics from Music House on Ash-a-Tacks myspace the other day:
    http://www.myspace.com/ash_a_tack/p...back-in-the-dayz-djs-cutting-dubplate/2747752
     
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  26. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Who was Mr Machette Steph?[​IMG]
     
  27. jamessedgewick

    jamessedgewick Well-Known Member

    I have a few dubs, mostly done at Transition. Would love to cut more often but its so expensive... Can smell them as soon as soon as i open a record bag with even one or two in :)
     
  28. Sirena

    Sirena Don't monkey with the buzzsaw

    It's not much selling in the foreign market either (outside Japan maybe). Blacka Dread's record store in Brixton, one of the main 7" importers, has just posted an application for change of use to a juice bar, I hear.
     
  29. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    I don't think there are any Jamaican vinyl presses operational any longer. Could be the end for Blacka - Dub Vendor went down the same route with food in the front of the shop but closed after the riots/fire.
     
  30. Sirena

    Sirena Don't monkey with the buzzsaw

    Blacka is a bright guy and if he isn't selling vinyl, he'll find something else a bit cultural (probably) but more profitable. He lives a lot in central Kingston now and has a good little business hiring out bouncy castles for kids' parties!
     
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