Abuse of disabled parking bay -who do I report it to?
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pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
The incidences of disabled badges being robbed from cars is HUGE.
Even National Trust badges get robbed these days, so thieves can get free parking at popular tourist beauty spots.
I'd definitely have a word - even if she is a bona fide disabled driver she's still taking up someone elses space, if the said space is for this elderly couple.
Even National Trust badges get robbed these days, so thieves can get free parking at popular tourist beauty spots.
I'd definitely have a word - even if she is a bona fide disabled driver she's still taking up someone elses space, if the said space is for this elderly couple.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
This surprises me as I was under the impression they all had photos in them now?
They do have photos on them but the photo is on the opposite side from the expiry date, which is what has to be displayed.
Tbh I would have someone investigated if I thought they might be abusing the blue card coz it used to piss me off in the extreme that my gran had to walk further(which was a struggle) because of some ignorant twat.
The exact wording on the card is Misuse of this card may constitute a criminal offence. I have my gran's old card here coz it has her photo on it
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
It's a tricky one because, while I hate people who abuse these systems, she might have a disability that she really doesn't want to talk to a stranger about, so I'm not sure I'd want to confront her, either. Have you spoken to your disabled neighbour to find out whether it's a problem? If it's not, I'd leave it.
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
You can't tell whether the driver is a legitimate holder of a Blue Badge, but the issuing Council (Southwark) will be able to do so.
The incidence of fraud by people who are not entitled to the Blue Badge is very great. The value of the fraud consists of the saving in money, and in time and convenience, and exemption from congestion charging which involves a cost to the taxpayer in terms of lost revenue. This will often amount to many thousands of pounds.
Most Councils - certainly in London, where rules are tighter than in other parts of the UK - take this fraud seriously.
You should report your concerns to Southwark Council Disability services on 020 7525 2141/ 2306 as they issued the badge - there will be a visible reference number. They will be able to check with the person to whom it was issued. If it was issued to somebody else that may be enough to stop any abuse of the badge. If the badge was stolen or forged they will ask the police to investigate.
You certainly shouldn't confront her, and there's no need to do so. Many people have a disability that is not apparent to others. If the driver is the legitimate holder then she will already be aware of the rules and probably not surprised that someone noticed. She will recognise that it is in everyone's interest that people who steal from or defraud others are deterred from doing so.
I don't agree with people who think this is a trivial issue, or that people who complain about suspected fraud are overly officious.This kind of fraud devalues the Blue Badge scheme and disadvantages disabled people and it's completely reasonable to take action to stop it.
knatchbull
Active Member
Thank you for this informative, intelligent measured response - I will be contacting Southwark with details of the badge reference number.
ricbake
working out how
Blue Badge abuse is a major problem - it is a crime - there is alot of money in it - parking in a controlled area could cost £50 -£100 - £200 a week. They are being stolen, forged, fiddled and changeing hands at much as a £1000 each. Depriving some of the most vunerable people of a service we are all paying for. The Badge is issued to the person and because of the number of thefts of them from disabled peoples vehicles, in some Boroughs they have made them also vehicle specific.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Yeah go for it.
If she is a legitimate badge owner I'm sure she wouldn't mind at all.
If she's not legit then a grand seems a fair fine for a first offense.
Can't believe the people on this thread who think it's alright to nick disabled parking spaces like that cunt John Terry.
Gixxer1000
cant wheelie a shaftie :(
Thats what I want to know, the OP should look through their windows and find out.
psycherelic
I'm not an old hippy!
ricbake
working out how
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/....balham_solicitor_admits_blue_badge_fraud.php
Should be more than a Grand fine.
Should be more than a Grand fine.
psycherelic
I'm not an old hippy!
This thread reminds me of something but I can't quite work out what it is.
*wanders away humming blueee eeeoooo bluuuuooo ooo*
Fetch the stick Margaret!
*wanders away humming blueee eeeoooo bluuuuooo ooo*
Fetch the stick Margaret!
zenie
>^^<
I thought there'd been a massive crackdown on it that's all.
Of course it'd piss you off, but unless the parking sign is allocated to one reg mark I'm not sure how you can claim ownership on a public highway?
No definitely not! and isn't that what the law states?
and if she isn't disabled thne she should be fined, but what if she is?
Really?
You really want more investigative powers to judge who and who isn't disabled?
No I don't suppose she will mind, I'm just echoing what poot says here
what right do we have to decide if someone is or isn't disabled? She might not even know that space was specifically put there for this couple.
and I hope you're not including me in the JT comment??
My sister has been given grief for using her disabled badge in the past because she looks OK, but is a dialysis patient. I also got one wanker of a bus driver having a go at me for using my sister's badge when I went to collect her from hospital (the nob head). However, people who use blue badges to park in areas where there is no congestion at all I don't care about really. As long as they have not nicked them from someone elses car.
I thought that space that were marked specifically "for" a designated disabled driver could ONLY be used by them, and not by any passing blue-badge holder?
That is how it seems to work near me (Kilburn / West Hampstead). If a disabled person moves in and gets a car, they can apply for "their" space outside their house or flat. Anyone else parks in it, they get a ticket.
Is the OP sure that this space is "for" any disabled person in particular?
Giles..
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
So how do you know that she is abusing the bay in relation to work? How do you know that 'your' space is closer to where she works, than a 'normal' parking space? How exactly do you know where she works?
'Past few days' you say you've noticed her, so why are you so instantly on her case and what do you do with your day that you're so keenly aware of the activities of people in your street? Cos i've noticed that you've carefully but deliberately avoided answering questions about the markings (or not) on this space.
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
If she is not disabled but has a badge for a disbabled person who uses the car occasionally then she is not allowed to use the badge unless the disabled person is with her . Which would be her acting illegally !
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
she has agreed to participate in a system that has a mechanism to verify this without a direct accusation. I don't see the problem?
If you are having problems with people using Disabled Parking Bays as means to park closer to Public Transport, Hospitals (yes even hospitals) or any markets or such you can apply to Southwark Council to make the Disabled Parking Bay Residential Parking Only.
Then you will need a residential Parking permit as wel as a blue badge to park in that particular place.
If it is a problem in the area already, ie you already have residential parking, then this will be far easier to do.
Then you will need a residential Parking permit as wel as a blue badge to park in that particular place.
If it is a problem in the area already, ie you already have residential parking, then this will be far easier to do.
subversplat
writer of wrongs
Added bonus of getting some free petrol out of the deal too
zenie
>^^<
If, if, if - the OP's got no proof other then she doesn't 'look' disabled.
The problem is people deciding who and who isn't disabled, based on what they see out of their window!
Would be the sensible idea and I'm surprised the council didn't do that already.
Tell the council. They can decide if she's using it legitimately. If she is, great. If not, she deserves punitive action.
People who abuse the blue badge scheme are selfish fuckers
Genuine users of it should be happy that concerned members of the public are vigilant and hostile to abuse of the excellent scheme.
People who abuse the blue badge scheme are selfish fuckers
Genuine users of it should be happy that concerned members of the public are vigilant and hostile to abuse of the excellent scheme.Private Storm
Smell The Glove
But what do the elderly neighbours have to say? Second guessing when/if people have a problem with something and then acting on your guess leads to all sorts of trouble. Speak to them and see if they find it a problem. If not, then look for something else to fill your time. Like objecting to planning permission, that kind of stuff.
^^^what fullyplumped said
baldrick
hmmmmm
hey - it's not for knatchbull to explain his neighbours.
we shouldn't judge why they need that space: the council has deemed it necessary that they have it. Perhaps one of them is registered blind and and somebody who drives them around needs to use it occasionally. Perhaps they're on holiday for a couple of weeks. It is not our place to attempt to judge their disability needs. And besides, the council have already done that.
we shouldn't judge why they need that space: the council has deemed it necessary that they have it. Perhaps one of them is registered blind and and somebody who drives them around needs to use it occasionally. Perhaps they're on holiday for a couple of weeks. It is not our place to attempt to judge their disability needs. And besides, the council have already done that.
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